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- Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:45 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
A modern Mac with Apple silicon (M-series processors) will be much more than twice as fast in my experience. The published CPU benchmark for my Studio M1 is 2x of my iMac 27" 2014 for single-core. Maybe LC's Data Grid uses multicore for scrolling, but I doubt it. Did you create a new account to tes...
- Thu Aug 28, 2025 2:55 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
I just did some more testing. Again: iMac 27" (2014, i7-4GHz, 32GB, Mac OS 11.7.10) I tested 3 Data Grids, each about 1200 pixels high with about 200 rows, and either 6 columns of data or only six columns visible, with each cell having 4-40 chars depending on the cell (usually ≤12) on my regular Mac...
- Tue Aug 26, 2025 5:18 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
Craig, I always just thought that the nature of Data Grid was that it scrolled super slowly, from the first time I used it in 2010. I was surprised to hear that others can scroll faster even on older equipment. If there are any kind of tests you'd like me to perform to report the results I'm happy t...
- Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:12 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
It may well be we have been arguing apples and oranges with the OP referring exclusively to web apps and me referring to desktop apps - and the two are really not equivalent No. I have never made a web app with LiveCode, all my LiveCode apps are desktop. My Data Grid in my desktop app scrolls glaci...
- Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:53 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
dude, if you want to use html/js then that's fine - millions do. Not quite sure why you're here arguing the case. At the end of the day I see your mindset is fixed. Feel free not to respond to this as it won't really change anything for anyone. Dude, WTF?! I'm just relaying my actual experience. Wh...
- Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:36 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
I was definitely using Data Grid. My data is only 205 rows. It's about 2.5 screens of information. Scrolling as fast as I can with my Magic Mouse (swiping my finger across the top of the mouse) takes 4 seconds to go from the top to the bottom of the data. I just made a 2000-row table with JS and I c...
- Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:56 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
- Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:54 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
You are greatly underselling LCs capabilities... Okay, I'm listening, what am I missing? To me, if I'm going web-based, I can't see why I'd want the bloat of LiveCode for no discernible benefit when HTML/JS is easy to code, lightweight, and runs fast. If I'm making a standalone app, then sure, Live...
- Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:59 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
Thank you, I didn't know about Metadata for text. The feature set of LiveCode is huge (and growing) and there's a lot I don't know about. (I couldn't find Metadata even when searching for that feature, because I didn't know what it was called.) Knowing about metadata sure would have saved me a lot o...
- Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:16 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
One thing I'm preferring with HTML/JS over LiveCode is that I can embed data behind the text. For example: <LI ledgerEntryID=38 transactionID=7 sortDate=20250818 humanDate='8/18/25'>Groceries</LI> (Yes, you can make your own attributes in HTML and access them with Javascript, works in all browsers.)...
- Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:39 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
As I'm developing with HTML+JS, I found one advantage of LiveCode: It's live. Meaning, I don't have to reload the page to see the results. I've done that some hundred times now with HTML+JS.
- Sat Aug 09, 2025 8:22 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
As I'm continuing my accounting sw development in HTML/JavaScript, I peeked into my LC code for my LC-based accounting app, to copy an algorithm to port, and I'm remembering something that really slowed me down in LC development: the code windows scrolls super slow. I'm using an older computer, but ...
- Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:27 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
Re: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
LC 9.6.3 on MacOS 15.5 starts to load, then when it says "Loading tools..." it quits unexpectedly. But at this point, even if I could get it to run, I wouldn't use it any more. I'm nearly finished writing my new accounting app, and it's SO much easier to use HTML tables + Javascript vs. LC's DataGrid.
- Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:42 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 15618
The end of XTalk / LiveCode for me
After nearly 40 years, I'm done with XTalk. In the beginning I loved the ability to quickly make real apps with HyperCard, but today I can make web-based apps with Javascript + SQL, which is easy, cheap, and gives way better performance. When HyperCard came out in 1987 I was blown away. I actually t...
- Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:40 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: R.I.P. Bill Atkinson, 74
- Replies: 4
- Views: 8987
Re: R.I.P. Bill Atkinson, 74
That's a great poem. It brings back memories, e.g. John Sculley, SCSI drives. Especially as I worked at Apple from 1992-97 (probably the five worst years of Apple's existence).