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BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:57 am
by arombauts
Hello there...

Is this planned in a near future?

Take care,

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:17 pm
by richmond62
"universal app"

seems about as ambiguous as one can be . . .

what? Runs on Mac OS 7, 8,9, 10 & 11 on PPC, INTEL and ARM . . .

That would be a wonderful thing indeed.

Can you be a bit more specific?

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:54 pm
by Klaus
The question seems unambiguous in this context for me.
Monsieur wants to know if LC will support INTEL and ARM architecture in one UNIVERSAL app, n'est-ce pas?

I dare to say: Yes, sure! :D

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:27 pm
by richmond62
Then this has already been discussed elsewhere:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34876

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:30 pm
by arombauts
richmond62 wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:27 pm
Then this has already been discussed elsewhere:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34876
Thanks. Detailed positive reply indeed.

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:31 pm
by richmond62
Of course, now the "Apple Silicon" machines are available for purchase, and macOS 11.0.1 has bee releases, we wonder when
LIvecode will release a version of Livecode that:

1. Runs on Apple ARM machines.

2. Can build standalones for both Apple ARM and Apple INTEL machines.

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:00 pm
by FourthWorld
GitHub shows very recent activity for the latest macOS:
https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulse

Do these newer Macs provide no means of running existing macOS apps?

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:33 pm
by richmond62
FourthWorld wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:00 pm
Do these newer Macs provide no means of running existing macOS apps?
Yes, they do, with Rosetta 2, but, like the "Classic mode", it probably won't hang around for long.

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:39 am
by FourthWorld
Apple supported Classic mode for about a decade. LiveCode (then MetaCard) had an OS X-native engine in the first year. I'd guess we'll see a similar pattern with Apple's latest architectural shift.

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:10 pm
by richmond62
Apple supported Classic mode for about a decade.
Mac OS 10.0 was released in 2001

Mac OS 10.5 (which did not have support for 'Classic') was released in 2007, and was the
last version to offer PPC software support.

2007 - 2001 = 6

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:54 pm
by FourthWorld
If 2007 was the release date, when did support end?

Re: BigSur universal app suuport?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:14 pm
by richmond62
FourthWorld wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:54 pm
If 2007 was the release date, when did support end?
Ah.