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Hi Everybody,
just coming into LC programming having accidentally discovering it mentioned in a REBOL forum.

Downloaded and installed under Windows for a friend, ( not my proffered O/S -- but so be it ), and after getting a glimpse of its potential decided to try under Linux. WELL !! Now that's a different story altogether.

To save Linux users more time -- don't bother.

Why so harsh ?

1) well it pretends to install OK, but
a) often does NOT install the ICON on the desktop as suggested in the install sequence.

b) The install process is using some odd Graphic style where you not sure you've actually selecting
an option or not.

c) in native 32 bit systems it often does not display the tool bar and menu options completely
--- ie: half drawn icons, half faded texts ( I don't mean the 'option not active' type fade ) just some characters are solid, other faded in the same word.

2) having actually installed LC, depending upon which version of Linux , I get these effects :

-- MINT 32 with MATE | XFCE : total desktop lockup, requiring task KILL

-- MINT 64 + WINE : total desktop lockup, requiring task KILL

-- PCLinuxOS : Transparent Forms, ie: in a Button, select Script Editor, Form appears in Border & Header only, NO content.

-- Mepis 32 : Transparent Forms, ie: in a Button, select Script Editor, Form appears in Border &
Header only, NO content.

-- UBUNTU 13.04 i386 ( various desktops ) : Transparent Forms, ie: in a Button, select Script Editor, Form appears in Border & Header only, NO content.

Am I seeing a consistent fault here ?

Not LC fault :
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-- Mepis 64 & IA32-libs : did not load LC as IA32 libraries are stuffed !
-- aptosid 64 & IA32-libs : did not load LC as IA32 libraries are stuffed !

Windows ( some faults )
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Windows XP 32 -- installs and runs mostly, have experiences some problems with trying generated .EXE
on other XP machines, some program work, other fail in a loop. Totally locking up Windows, not nice.

Linux Working :
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I finally re- installed a OLD version of DEBIAN 64 version 6 and both IA32 libs & WINE function, BUT

-- under WINE , Livecode is extremely ( painfully) SLOW , quite unusable in fact.
-- with ia32 , Livecode not fast , but useable. Still experimenting.

-- Both versions tend to miss mouse clicks as different times.
-- the internal editor facilities are terrible, slow to respond to keystrokes, esp del & backspace keys. If they cant be bothered to implement a decent editor -- go get one that works as people expect.
-- its very 'touchy' and you can find LC just dropping you back to the desktop.

In Summary, LC looks promising, but after all the development years expended on the product and its ancestors I would have expected a more mature reliable and better interfaced product by now.

If it was not for my friends interest I doubt I would have bother trying it for a working Linux version

Hopefully, with's LC's new funding it can progress. It is a sorely need product.

You are being a fusspot.

I have LC Community 6.1 running on about 10 machines running all sorts of Debian derivatives without a singel problem.

> You are being a fusspot.

Maybe SO . [ I've been called worse !!!! ]

> I have LC Community 6.1 running on about 10 machines running all sorts of Debian derivatives without a singel problem.

Be nice to know just which versions of Debian your having such sucess with -- happy for you that LC works so well.

BTW: I generally use Debian ( and derivatives ) all the time, Using aptosid right now, BUT as I pointed out apstosid has brocked ia32 & WINE tools so LC could
not be installed.

Ubuntu 7.04 - 13.04

Debian

Elementary OS

Saline OS

Of the four distros listed, you have had better sucess than I, I especially loaded the latest Ununtu 13.04 as it was the prefered one
listed on the LC site, I was very disappointed that it failed.

These Two
-- Elementary OS
-- Saline OS
appear to be based upon Debian 6, the only version I have had any luck with.

LC EDITOR
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I was prompted to installed a latest update to LC yesterday, ( RC 1 ), under Debian6, it updated OK, but furrher testing shows that the editor
is still very flacky.

I may be a fusspot, but its all very well for LC to say "look we have a IDE", but a IDE that's very bad is worse than no IDE at all.
They have a lot to learn in the user interfacing arena

Their version of an editor tool is just awful , and buggy as well. !

The funny thing is that my "main machine" runs UbuntuStudio 13.04 (at home), and I run within it Virtual Windows 7,
Windows XP and Mac OS 10.6.7.

In all cases LC 6.1 Community looks and behaves in exactly the same way.

Now UbuntuStudio runs XFCE 4.12 . . .

at work the machines have "GNOME Classic without fArty effects", and/or XFCE 4.10

and I have no probs at all.

I suspect you are using GNOME 3 or another of the more recent window managers over which there has been a lot of tooth-sucking.

Unfortunately, the same happens to me too. I can install Livecode as well as dragoncity, but when launching it, it is freezing after it shows me the start screen. I tried for several times and reinstalled also Livecode.
OS: (L)ubuntu 13.04
Kernel: 3.8.0-29-generic (x86_64)
Desktop: LXDE (Lubuntu)

Any ideas how to get run LiveCode?
G.

I think there are 2 problems here:

1. The fact that the Linux installer is obviously just a tweaked version of the Windows one:

1.1. It does NOT install a desktop Icon (and, considering the number of Windowing managers and/or desktop environments one can strap on the front of a Linux distro that is expecting too much).

1.2 So the installer gives the end-user unrealistic expectations, and needs to be sorted out.

2. I have found that installing LC Community for "voor jezelf alleen" (middle option) works every time; installing for all users tends to crash.

richmond62 wrote:2. I have found that installing LC Community for "voor jezelf alleen" (middle option) works every time; installing for all users tends to crash.

Thank you, that was it (for installing 6.1 and now upgrading to 6.1.2): Install "for all users" will freeze, but install only for me works fine. That is enough.

Well, Gurki, I am glad that has helped you; however, RunRev do need to get their act together re the Linux installer; even if that just means blocking out the "for Everyone" option.

Problems installing for "all users" could result from 'gksu' not being installed. Using the gui installer requires this to get the root password to allow installation in '/opt'. So, check for 'gksu'. If that's your issue you can run the installer from a terminal using su or sudo. (If that's not the problem though, I don't have any other suggestions.)

I haven't had really many issues running LiveCode in openSUSE 11.4, 12.1 or 12.2 (haven't installed 12.3 -- will install 13.1 when it's released) or Mint 9 or 10 before I moved to SUSE, and none that weren't resolved with some tweaking. I don't say that to deny or dismiss anyone's experience or the frustration they've endured, but I do feel the conclusion that people shouldn't bother with LiveCode under Linux is a little extreme.