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Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:57 am
by BarrySumpter
Hi all iPhone LiveCode developers,

I'm trying to test a quick proof of concept GPS app on my daughters non-jailbroken iPhone 4s.

In LiveCode for Android I can test the app directly on the physical Android device from the LiveCode IDE.

Can I test an iPhone GPS app on the physical iPhone from LiveCode IDE like I can with Android?

Just a quick yes/no.

I've had yet another quick look around and found the $99 per year iOS deveoper path.
But not interested at this stage of simple proof of concept in paying $99 and spending hours trying to sort out the Apple App Store until I have an actual product to sell to iPhone users.

Thanks heaps.

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:24 pm
by Mark
Hi,

Without paying $99, you can't test on an iOS device.

Kind regards,

Mark

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:49 pm
by BarrySumpter
Hi mark,

Thanks for the reply.

I've spent so much time on trying to figure out how to proof of concept for iphone I've lost my interest.
Thats yet another Saturday waisted.

What if I test on my co-workers JB'd iPhone as the physical device?

Will LC allow me to build and install and directly test on the JB'd physical device
or perhaps just build an install and maybe install onto the JB'd physical device from a web page?

No problem if not.
Just trying to recover all the time I spent on LC
and the moeny I spent on LC part of the 2011 02 OmegaBundle.
My co-worker who who has the JB'd iPhone
is intested in the 2012 02 OmegaBundle and very intersted in this line of questions as well.

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:28 pm
by Mark
Hi Barry,

No, without paying $99, you can't test on any physical iOS device. It has nothing to do with LiveCode. You have to thank Apple for it.

Kind regards,

Mark

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:54 pm
by BarrySumpter
OK, Thanks again Mark.

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:35 am
by BarrySumpter
Found a real solution for me:
NS Basic/App Studio 2.0
GPS corrdinates proof Tested and completed successfully.
Even added my project to my daughters iPhone 4s front page as a app.
LOL.
Took about half an hour to sort out.
From research to install dev environment to finding a sample app to successfull install.
And does the same for Android.
$99 single dev license.
LOL.

If they can do it why can't RR?

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 am
by Jellicle
BarrySumpter wrote:Found a real solution for me:
NS Basic/App Studio 2.0.
If they can do it why can't RR?
That dev system creates what are essentially web apps. Good luck with that if you ever want to do anything serious. Limited hardware interaction, slow speeds...

And to distribute on the iTunes store you still need to be a registered iOS developer, AND use another technology (PhoneGap) to make your apps work.

Ugh.

Gerry

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:31 am
by BarrySumpter
It's already working on my iPhone and Android device.
I don't want to go thru apple in any way shape or form.

I don't see any browser.

If it is a browser and the browser command bar is hidden.
Pretty much don't mind at this stage as I just wnat to create a proof of consept as quickly as possible.

Seems pretty fast.
It's actually working.
I'm not spending time jumping thru LC and apple hoops any more.

Of course I can't answer any indepth queries cause I've only got a couple of hours research into it.
But I'm further along on both Android and iPhone than when using LC.

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:24 am
by gpb01
BarrySumpter wrote:Hi mark,
...
What if I test on my co-workers JB'd iPhone as the physical device?

Will LC allow me to build and install and directly test on the JB'd physical device
or perhaps just build an install and maybe install onto the JB'd physical device from a web page?
...
Mmm ... normally, if for JB'd device you mean a Jailbroken device, you should be able to test your software also whitout paying the $99 to Apple ...
... on JB'd device there is no test for the validity of the 'certificate', so you should arrive.

If you have time ... try and let we know ;)

Guglielmo

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:25 am
by Jellicle
BarrySumpter wrote:I don't see any browser.
"NS Basic/App Studio makes use of JavaScript, HTML5 and WebKit." In other words, it's a web app. The fact that it doesn't run in a browser isn't relevant.

I'm pleased it works for you and I don't doubt you can do up a quick proof of concept in NS Basic. I'm also aware that not everyone wants to pay $99 so they can test apps on their devices (there are other benefits to being a registered developer, but leaving those aside...).

From what I can see you aren't interested in doing mainstream iOS development. That's fine, but why trash LC just because it doesn't meet your needs?

Gerry

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:25 pm
by Mark
Hi Barry and Guglielmo,

To test on a jailbroken device, you'd need to build a standalone. I doubt that it is possible to build a standalone for iOS without at least a developer provisioning profile, but please do let me know if it possible.

Kind regards,

Mark

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:54 pm
by gpb01
Mark wrote:Hi Barry and Guglielmo,
To test on a jailbroken device, you'd need to build a standalone. I doubt that it is possible to build a standalone for iOS without at least a developer provisioning profile, but please do let me know if it possible.
Kind regards,
Mark
... I don't know ... maybe in this http://ihackerpro.com/forum/index.php?topic=271.0 way ? ;)

Guglielmo

Re: Can I test a development only GPS app on iPhone?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:22 pm
by Mark
Hi Guglielmo,

Yes, that might work. Barry, the link provided by Guglielmo might be worth a try for you. Things work slightly differently now but the principle is still the same.

Kind regards,

Mark