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LiveCode 7 compiles 3x as big in MB compared to LC 6.6.5 !

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:06 pm
by TomiB
Hi LiveCode friends

Could it be that LiveCode 7.0.0 (and the 7.0.1rc also) do compile an app for iOS 3x as big in MB-Size than Version 6.6.5?

My App (the .app-file) when compiled with 6.6.5 is 9.9 MB in size

My App (the .app-file) whne compiled with 7.0.0 is 35.2 MB in size !

Whoa !

Problem is, the app in the iPhone works slower, reaction time of menus and calculations are noticeably slower and that is pretty bad feature for a new version !

Or am I making a beginner mistake somewhere?

I surely hope so.

For the time beeing I will not work with Version 7.0.0 and hopefully they correct this later on, or you tell me where I went wrong.

Thanks a heap,

Thomas

Re: LiveCode 7 compiles 3x as big in MB compared to LC 6.6.5

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:00 pm
by TomiB
I also noticed, LC 7 does not convert the fonts "right" as LC 6.6.5 still does.

F.i. Futura Condensec-Medium is converted into a large wide font.

Many fonts in LC 7 are converted differently, bigger, wider, maybe thats part of the problem.

Maybe it installs many fonts into the .app-file? Or maybe its not connected to the size-change.

Re: LiveCode 7 compiles 3x as big in MB compared to LC 6.6.5

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:39 pm
by Klaus
Hi Tomi,

if I remember right, the big file size is a result of the UNICODE libraries that are now part of LC 7x.
LC 7 does not convert the fonts "right" as LC 6.6.5 still does.
Sorry, what dou you mean with "convert"?
LC never converted fonts!?


Best

Klaus

Re: LiveCode 7 compiles 3x as big in MB compared to LC 6.6.5

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:56 am
by vikkysingh
Want a way out of this. 30MB for a small app is too big.

Re: LiveCode 7 compiles 3x as big in MB compared to LC 6.6.5

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:24 am
by TomiB
Hi Klaus

Font Conversions. App to iOS for iPhone.

Before LC 7 conversion was good from a small condensed font, f.i. Futura-Condensed Medium (in Mac) it went to a similar font on the iPhone/iOS.

Now with LC 7 font Futura-Condensed Medium is translated into a much wider, bolder font, does not fit in flds anymore.

I also tried
Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold
and
Avenir Next Condensed Medium

Same thing, no conversion to a small condensed font.

I stay with LC 6.6.5 as long as I can, especially because of the size increase in MB x 3.5 !
Slow apps are a pain!

Thomas

Re: LiveCode 7 compiles 3x as big in MB compared to LC 6.6.5

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:09 am
by LCNeil
Hi all,

Our community manager Richard Gaskin has a fantastic explanation of the increased standalone size in the following forum post-

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.ph ... 66#p112766

Kind Regards,

Neil Roger
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LiveCode Support Team ~ http://www.runrev.com
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Re: LiveCode 7 compiles 3x as big in MB compared to LC 6.6.5

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:51 pm
by Klaus
Hi Tomi,
TomiB wrote:...
Before LC 7 conversion was good from a small condensed font, f.i. Futura-Condensed Medium (in Mac) it went to a similar font on the iPhone/iOS.
Now with LC 7 font Futura-Condensed Medium is translated into a much wider, bolder font, does not fit in flds anymore.
...
AHA! You mean font substitution! 8)

I remember that something has also changed here, will see if I can find it in the release notes or somewhere else...


Best

Klaus