About the cost of Revolution's update and the cost of runrev

[LESTROSO]

Dear sirs,

We know all that revolution is the best development product and i wonder

why the updates license are so expensive.....i have bought not so far the

licence for 2.8.0 (350£) and i was so shoked for the power of runrev

revolution ide....but also shoked too for the price of the updates....

like the same price of the first purchase.......(350£)

I see, to develop revolution cost many money and time......but the price

should be accesible for all users if you want spread your program ide....


i hope in the future that you will reduce the price of product, i hope....

but i give you my best compliments for the product again...

Many thanks,

Lestroso

[FourthWorld]

Seems like a misunderstanding. I just went to the storefront and found US$399 for a new Studio license and US$299 for the upgrade:

https://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/mer ... _Code=STUD

[LESTROSO]

OK Perhaps it's my misunderstanding, but in every way the price it's too high

for a renewal licence.....because it should be cost at least 1/3 of the total

price...retail 399- renewal 199 it's always too high for me and i think for the

other user.... and then the ide it's not bugs free and don't compile now for all

platform that the slogan says......so think different... please reduce price

and people will buy more copies of the runrev revolution, the best

language that i founded on the web.......


Thanks in advance to all and Marry Christmas

lestroso

[FourthWorld]

> the ide it's not bugs free

I've worked with THINK C, CodeWarrior, XCode, SuperCard, RealBASIC, TookBook, OMO, and a few others, and have yet to find an IDE - or any software product - that's bug-free. The OS I'm writing this on ships with more than 10,000 known bugs.

As with other software, license and renewal fees help the vendor keep engineers working on it every day. Many releases are free updates, and the next one, v2.9, will also be a free upgrade and has a long list of closed bug reports behind it.

> and don't compile now for all platform that the slogan says

Studio does indeed let you deploy to all supported platforms. The only difference between Studio and Enterprise (aside from some DB connections and a few other minor things) is that with Studio you can *develop* (edit scripts) on only one platform. But you can certainly build standalones for any of them using Studio.

> ......so think different... please reduce price

If it were up to me I'd think REALLY different any raise the price. Under its former owner the license sold for $995 a seat, with annual renewals of $300 without support or $500 with. For the unusually high ROI we've had here I didn't mind the price, and it helped create a high ROI for the vendor as a sort of "seriousness filter", reducing support costs by catering mostly to professional developers.

But I recognize that RunRev is aiming to reach a broader market, and I believe there's room for refinement of the pricing structure.

Fortuntely for most Rev fans I don't own RunRev, but you can write to the owners with your suggestion at (corrected address) support@runrev.com

[Obleo]

I Think if you consider they way Real-Basic does it and I am using them as an example as they really the only other product that allows for cross platform builds like Revolution. and is simple to use.

Real-Basic makes users of there pro version (mac/windows/linux) pay $250 for annually updates and never actually update anything noticeable, I guess they finally got universal binaries working right a whole year and a half later. They still do not support Vista at all.

Revolution tock care of both of these things before any other tool third party development tool on the market did. Your saving 50.00 from what Real Basic would be, And get a tool that lets you do as much as Real-basic in less lines of code.

I shocked by how cheap revolution is, I make 500 times that selling products made from it. There due there cut for building a great tool we all can profit highly on.

[heatherlaine]

Dear folks,

Seems like I should say something definitive on the price here, since I'm not sure anybody has got it exactly right .

First of all, if you think the price for Studio is too high for you - maybe you're not a professional developer, maybe you're just starting out and haven't yet got the capital, maybe you're just not sure if Revolution is worth it, then Media costs a tiny fraction of the price of Studio. For only $49 you can get started, use pretty much the entire Revolution scripting language, get used to the IDE, build your project and make your decision. If it turns out to be worth it, you can upgrade to Studio, build your standalone and sell your software.

Secondly, the cost of updates for a Studio license is not really $299 per update, or even $199 per update. If you are smart and keep your license updated, the real cost is somewhere around $50/update. This does depend on the number of releases we make during the course of a year, which can be variable.

Thirdly, if you want to deploy to any of the less popular platforms which are currently not available in version 2.8.1, please email support. It is possible to deploy to these platforms by reverting to a previous version and I am happy to arrange that for anyone who requests it.

As I'm sure you all know, version 2.9 will restore Linux to equality with the other platforms and you will be able to build for Linux from 2.9.

The correct address for any feedback or requests you want to make is support@runrev.com - the marketing address is an internal email address only. We're always happy to receive feedback.

And finally, Richard, please don't hesitate to pay us $995 anytime you feel like it!


Warm Regards,

Heather

[Mark]

Heather,

It seems I have missed this. Could you please explain to me how I can keep the cost of a yearly update down to US$ 50? I would really appreciate that! What would it be in pound sterling or euro?

Thanks,

Mark

[LESTROSO]

Dear Heather,

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Secondly, the cost of updates for a Studio license is not really $299 per update, or even $199 per update. If you are smart and keep your license updated, the real cost is somewhere around $50/update. This does depend on the number of releases we make during the course of a year, which can be variable. 

Please, I would like to know like mark how I can keep the cost of a yearly update down to US$ 50?

I have now a licence for a 2.8.0 when i click to make an update rev says me to buy a renewal licence......what can i do??.....

And Heather i would like to become a professional programmer, but i have preferred to start with rev studio and not with rev Media , because rev Studio is the best and complete solution for me,
also i speak about rev studio in the Quality Runrev to improve again Rev Studio with positive results.....

Many Thanks in advance,

LESTROSO

WWW.fasasoftware.com

[heatherlaine]

Let me clarify. The cost of an individual update to Revolution is approximately $50, depending on how many releases we produce over the course of a year. This is not the cost of the yearly update pack, which covers all new releases for a year. If you take the cost of your yearly update pack, and divide it by the number of releases in the year, you arrive at what each update cost you.

Regards,

Heather

PS Please, DO NOT post email to the marketing address. We will not respond to email sent to this address, and cc'ing it may cause your email to be deleted from the correct support queue.

[Mark]

Thanks for the explanation, Heather.

Mark

[LESTROSO]

I'm sorry Heather for email you on marketing email, but there was not email reply by you and so....i thank you very much for your explanation, now it's clear......

Thanks again......

Lestroso

[bjb007]

I'm still confused about updates.

I've had Studio V2.8.1 for over a year and it reports that there
are no updates.

So why would anyone pay for updates if there aren't any?

Much better to announce an update to existing users and let
them buy it if they want to.

[Obleo]

I'm still confused about updates.

I've had Studio V2.8.1 for over a year and it reports that there
are no updates.

So why would anyone pay for updates if there aren't any?

Much better to announce an update to existing users and let
them buy it if they want to.

The update pack last a full year worth of updates over paying for each update. Even if there only one update annually it still cost less to buy the early update pack over buying the revolution studio Renewal.

Since buying my lst Rev Studio License there been 14 updates and it saved myself over thousands of dollars by paying for update packs over paying for each update.

I do agree the lack of updates over this last year has been a disappointment.

It may all depends what you may use revolution for, if your using it to bring in a income, then It makes total since to get the update pack, and keep on top of the latest and greatest solutions they add to the IDE.

Anytime You can save money off your bottom line, it worth it.

If your making an income with this tool, it is also a tax write off. If you look at it from that point of view of tax write off then It is then basically free.

[Mark]

Hi all,

I am not disappointed by the lack of updates. RunRev Ltd is working very, very hard on a reall stable and reliable update with many useful new features. If an update had been released in the meantime, you would have been complaining about unresolved bugs and the lack of features and you woud have been right.

Then again, I understand that you expect to get some sort of an update, if you are paying for the current version plus one year of updates. Perhaps you should contact support and find out whether the people at RunRev agree.

Best,

Mark