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Hello,
I'd like better video support for RunRev on Windows. While support for Quicktime is nice, it's problematic to ask Windows users to install Quicktime to watch videos. The current implementation of Windows Media Player seems broken, and it would be so much nicer if it was working (important for educational apps).

Sorry, but that's a showstopper for me

It's becoming increasingly critical for me too.

I hope the poster will consider raising the Severity rating from "Normal" to something higher. The MCI interface Rev uses to drive non-QT media on Windows is woefully outdated, and things will only get worse the longer it remains obsolete and unsupported by the OS vendor.

In the meantime, please consider adding your votes and comments to that report. This is an important one, currently underrated by the Rev community with their disproportionate Mac use.

An option here may be to use the built in browser for playing WMV files linked to a web page... Although not an elegant solution, it may just work.

Man oh man, I'd like to get a peek at RunRev's development team. Is everyone there using Macs and is Windows just an afterthought? I mean no built in support for Windows Media for heaven's sake... What does that mean?

It only means that most folks use QT on Windows or find the current native playback via MCI acceptable for what they're doing with it.

The MCI interface was put into place before WMP existed. In the interim Apple's QT implementation has become pretty useful for many circumstances (though not a few of the ones my customers have), and the MCI API, while a bit long in the tooth, handles many of the basics well enough for some folks who can't rely on QT being available. So it's not like they've never had a Windows video solution, just not enough people clamoring for an updated one.

FWIW, the lead programmer, Mark Waddingham, spends most of every day in Windows, as do many others on the team.

I'm pretty curious about what MCI is actually capable of... It might be interesting to try to use it as well, first identifying compatible media formats.

Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback about this issue. And tell Mark Waddingham and Co. to get on it, chop chop!

FourthWorld wrote:It only means that most folks use QT on Windows or find the current native playback via MCI acceptable for what they're doing with it.

Actually, I see more online video being converted to the Flash format. I have had a long past history of QT blue screens appearing and have had no problems once these sites converted over to Flash Video. Since Flash enjoys 99% market penetration and is cross platform it makes a very good current choice. I don't see how anyone can have a web browser that isn't Flash enabled.

> I don't see how anyone can have a web browser that isn't Flash enabled.

We'll find out when the iPad is released.

FourthWorld wrote:It's becoming increasingly critical for me too.

The reason why I use Adobe Acrobat for training applications was due to the fact that many large companies are not allowing multimedia elements on their corporate computers. While they due have Windows Media they will delete the codecs to conserve bandwidth. Since they don't allow their employees administrative access there is no way short of IT loading the required software/upgrades/codecs etc. They usually means there needs to be a committee meeting and on and on... I have yet to find one corporate computer that didn't have Acrobat Reader installed. In the corporate world pdf is a way of life. If you embed your movie in Acrobat then you don't need any additional players. Its all self contained. This has been my solution but as I have said before the shortcoming is not being in 100% control of the navigation.

Quicktime on Windows? -- Don't make me laugh...

After several years of refusing to install QT on Windows because of install and runtime errors, I tried to install it again today on a Vista computer.
I wanted to look at some demo videos on Apple.com.
I wasn't suprised when the install failed because DEP (Data Execution Prevention) blocked the install.
Problems when installing QT on Windows are commonplace; I expect there are a lot of Windows users that will not install QT after poor experiences in the past...
Windows 64bit users have been putting up with problems for years.
for example see:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... 0&tstart=0

Relying on Quicktime for functionality on Windows is a bad idea...

Paul