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suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:59 am
by cusingerBUSCw5N
I am 4 months into my Livecode project - doing the deployment.

I have found two instances where having a Dun & Bradstreet number is either required or strongly recommended. You can get a DNB number for free if you're willing to wait 1 month. (Apple requires it to be a Certified Apple Developer - and I also found it necessary for "signing" Windows code so you don't get a nasty - downloading may harm your computer - notice.)

If you can't wait the month, getting a D&B number is a couple hundred dollars. So my suggestion is to get one early in your project so the 30 day wait is no big deal. You can also avoid the D&B fee if you're selling to the federal government - but you have to go through the bureaucratic process to sell to the government.

Anyway - just a tip for saving a bit of money.

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:50 pm
by snm
Do you mean about D-U-N-S number?
It's already free, no need to wait.

Marek.

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:50 pm
by Mark
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Mark

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:56 pm
by Klaus
DNB? DUNS?

Come on, friends, enlighten the unknowing :D

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:35 pm
by dave_probertGA6e24
I'm guessing he's American - you know - those people who think that everyone in the world understands whatever the heck they are talking about, because everyone in the world is actually an American ;)

Sorry Mate, but there is a big ol' world outside your borders who have no clue as to what you are going on about ;)

Cheers,
Dave

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:52 pm
by dunbarx
What is this "outside world" everyone is talking about?

Hmmm. I have heard of England.

Here is an adorable anecdote. During the British colonial time, a story circulated about an officer who believed that if one approached a native of any land that the army was currently involved with, and spoke slowly and clearly in proper english, then there was no reason at all that he should not be understood, and if not, it was only due to the recalcitrance of the listener.

So guess where we got our mindset? I admit, though, that we have taken it to new heights.

Craig

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:57 pm
by paul_gr
Only need a DUNS if you want to get into the iOS Developer Enterprise Program; you must be a company or organization with a D-U-N-S number to apply.

If you live outside the US good luck trying to get one.

cheers
Paul

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:36 pm
by snm
No problem to get it outside of US. The only conditions is it must be registered company. Up to 2 weeks by internet and immediately by phone (as they inform on web service).

Marek

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:49 pm
by paul_gr
snm wrote:No problem to get it outside of US. The only conditions is it must be registered company. Up to 2 weeks by internet and immediately by phone (as they inform on web service).
Marek
Thanks for the that -- a couple years ago an associate tried and was denied although his company was registered. Maybe things are more streamlined now, or he did something wrong at the time.

Paul

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:31 am
by cusingerBUSCw5N
Sorry - it is a DUNS number - from Dun and Bradstreet...and when I did it a couple of weeks ago, it's only free if you're willing to wait 30 days....or if you are selling to the government.

That's why I posted the suggestion to get it early so you can get it free. I went through the government selling route which was a complete pain in the neck.... but I was (am) too cheap to pay the $200 or so dollars.

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:11 am
by Mark
So, explain what is a D&B number! Are you and the other people in this thread talking about the same thing?!

Mark

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:56 pm
by doc
Everyone heard of Google? http://tinyurl.com/bq3z9fb

Google result (Wikipedia):
The Data Universal Numbering System, abbreviated as DUNS or D-U-N-S, is a system developed and regulated by Dun & Bradstreet (D&B), that assigns a unique numeric identifier, referred to as a "DUNS number" to a single business entity. It was introduced in 1963 to support D&B's credit reporting practice. It is a common standard worldwide. DUNS users include the European Commission, the United Nations and the United States government. More than 50 global, industry, and trade associations recognize, recommend, or require DUNS. The DUNS database contains over 100 million entries for businesses throughout the world.

DUNS number as it applies to LC/Apple/iOS developers:
https://developer.apple.com/support/ios/D-U-N-S.html

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:03 pm
by Klaus
Everyone heard of Google?
No, please tell us more 8)

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:14 pm
by Mark
Hi,

Thanks for posting the explanation. I don't think very small businesses outside the US need this, but I can imagine that it is useful if you're developing an in-house app for a company with more than a few dozens of employees.

Kind regards,

Mark

Re: suggestion for newbies

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:59 pm
by gpb01
Mark wrote: Thanks for posting the explanation. I don't think very small businesses outside the US need this, but I can imagine that it is useful if you're developing an in-house app for a company with more than a few dozens of employees.
Hi Mark,
and ... I think you're wrong ...

My company is a small company (less than 10 people) and base in Switzerland, but, to be registered as a legal entity (... and NOT as a individual) in the Apple Developer Programs, we had to provide our DUNS number (... is a mandatory field in the enrollment process).

The nice surprise was that, searching how to obtain this DUNS number, we have discovered that D&B (Dun & Bradstreet) had already registered our company and assigned a DUNS number. Our assumption was that they do this automatically when you start your company (... because other people can ask them for a "business report" about you, so ... they want to be ready ;)).

Moreover, Apple say on the DUNS page https://developer.apple.com/support/ios/D-U-N-S.html : "D&B may have assigned your organization a free D-U-N-S Number. Before enrolling, use the D-U-N-S Number look up tool to see if you already have one."

Guglielmo