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LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:50 pm
by Anije
Is there a way to install and activate LiveCode version 6 on a Mac? What is the latest MacOS that version 6 will run on, please?

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:52 pm
by richmond62
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The best place to check these things is in the release notes.

The notes for version 6.0.1 are a bit different.

The question re "LiveCode ver 6" needs to be refined to one of the subversions of LiveCode 6
as their release dates were spread across a 3 year period, and LiveCode version 7 subversions
started being released 2 years before the last version 6 release.

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:08 pm
by dunbarx
hi.

Go to the LiveCode downloads page and pull any version (starting with 4.5) you like.
https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

Craig

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:13 pm
by FourthWorld
Why v6 specifically?

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:26 pm
by richmond62
Go to the LiveCode downloads page and pull any version (starting with 4.5)
That won't work as you'll be unable to purchase a license for anything pre version 6.0.1.

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:01 pm
by Anije
LiveCode ver 6 specifically because (1) I'm a n00bie, and (2) I have never coded before, and (3) version 6 is the learning tutorial that I have and (4) version 6 is the version that my "instructor" has and using themselves; and (5) I can't match the current version lessons to the screenshots and exercises in the learning tutorial that I am using. I'm trying so hard to find something that I can match "pictures" with so I can find the right thing to click in the interface so I can learn. I don't want to give up; this is a challenge. Thanks for any help.

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:03 pm
by Anije
richmond62: thank you for your previous response; I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by release notes. (I'm too new.)

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:28 pm
by bogs
Hello Anije,

The release notes Richmond was referring too can either be found on the downloads website (dunbarx's link),

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... or in the help menu of the IDE -

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...however, I get that you may not have the IDE installed yet, so the website would be more accessible.

Version 6 had a long run, and the IDE changed many times in functionality, but not very much in control placement or general placement of menu items. Is your instructor specifically running 6.0.1, or just 6.x ? If the later, I would certainly recommend (out of those choices) to go with 6.5.x or higher, and I would *definitely* recommend 6.7.9 or higher if you are going to wind up doing anything with 'https:' websites, as 6.5.2 (and earlier) are problematical in that area.

Staying within the 6.x series should not pose any issues that I can think of with readily identifying and locating anything going on from your instructor's side.

As far as
Anije wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:50 pm
What is the latest MacOS that version 6 will run on, please?
... I do not know for sure. The 6.x series are 32 bit, if your current OSX allows running 32 bit software, they should run just fine. IF it does not, your alternative would be to either downgrade your OSX version to one that allows 32 bit apps to run, or (and this would certainly be my choice) download and install a virtual machine software to install an older version of OSX that allows 32 bit apps, as this is far safer than actually running an old Operating System.

Good luck and enjoy your learning :)

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:07 pm
by richmond62
version 6 is the version that my "instructor" has
Well: I have 2 questions:

1. Which version 6 is the one your "instructor" has?

2. Why do you use quotation marks around "instructor"?

In English using quotation marks around a noun such as instructor implies that
that word is not what it appears to be" so an "instructor" is not an instructor, but
something else.

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:43 pm
by PaulDaMacMan
Pretty sure LiveCode 6.7.11 (last version of 6 series), will not work past macOS 10.14.x (Mohave), 10.15 Catalina and above will only run 64bit coded apps.
If you can't run 32bit then my advice would be to just move on to highest version, and learn to recognize the graphic interface differences along the way ( they're not dramatically different visual changes,), or maybe just ask your instructor to update his tutorials with more recent screen-shot picts because they're maybe five+ years out-dated now.

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:48 pm
by bogs
learn to recognize the graphic interface differences along the way ( they're not dramatically different visual changes,)
Heh Paul, you and I have very different ideas on how different "dramatically different" must be.

Speaking only for myself, it is different enough to throw me off completely on things I don't even think about in the pre-8.x series :P

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:11 pm
by PaulDaMacMan
bogs wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:48 pm
learn to recognize the graphic interface differences along the way ( they're not dramatically different visual changes,)
Heh Paul, you and I have very different ideas on how different "dramatically different" must be.

Speaking only for myself, it is different enough to throw me off completely on things I don't even think about in the pre-8.x series :P
Sure, it's a subjective opinion.
If you hide the widget stuff then the tools palette isn't much different, I guess the property inspector layout is quite a bit different (better IMO).
But here's some visual comparison:
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LC 6.7.11 on macOS 10.14.6
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LC 9.6.x on macOS 10.14.6 with widgets hidden
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LC 9.6.x on macOS 10.14.6 with widgets
(I've got some extra widgets installed in my LC 9.6)

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:19 pm
by bogs
PaulDaMacMan wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:11 pm
Sure, it's a subjective opinion.
If you hide the widget stuff then the tools palette isn't much different, I guess the property inspector layout is quite a bit different (better IMO).
I sure wasn't referring to the tool palette, which has been similar to where it was in Mc lo those many moons ago :P

Your right about one thing, though, whether or not the changes made to the PI are better or not are certainly subjective ;)

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:30 pm
by PaulDaMacMan
bogs wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:19 pm
PaulDaMacMan wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:11 pm
Sure, it's a subjective opinion.
If you hide the widget stuff then the tools palette isn't much different, I guess the property inspector layout is quite a bit different (better IMO).
I sure wasn't referring to the tool palette, which has been similar to where it was in Mc lo those many moons ago :P

Your right about one thing, though, whether or not the changes made to the PI are better or not are certainly subjective ;)
Well, like it or not, I'm sure it had to change in certain ways to be able to support the on-the-fly modification for Widgets, might as well get used to it (or take a crack at building an alternative PI yourself)

Re: LiveCode ver 6

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:39 pm
by bogs
PaulDaMacMan wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:30 pm
might as well get used to it (or take a crack at building an alternative PI yourself)
Hum, I don't use it other than for answering (some) questions, and much like our friend the OP I am not interested in it (although the OP may change their POV, hopefully), and like quite a few others here I've already modified my tools of choice to suit my flow and made my own IDE for my use.

Que Sera eh?