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Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:32 pm
by scruffycoder
Hi,
I have a problem which is preventing me from using livecode. I've tried both version 9 6 100 and 10 0 0(dp6). I'm on a Mac v13 of macOS, fully patched. The problem is, when I click on anything in the tool bar, the main stack window disappears behind any other open apps. The only way I can use it is without any other apps open which isn't really practical. Has anyone else seen this behaviour?
Thanks in advance
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:02 pm
by richmond62
1. What do you mean by "9 6 100"?
2. What do you mean by "fully patched"?
3. I suspect this is something 'local', i.e. peculiar to your setup, as it is NOT happening with me.
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NOT happening round these parts.
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:03 pm
by dunbarx
Hi.
Do you have "Backdrop" selected in the "view" menu?
Turn it off.
Craig
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:33 pm
by stam
I suspect this is similar to the bug I reported here :
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24200
It’s annoying because other apps intersperse their windows with the IDE windows and I keep having to “hide others” (cmd-opt-H).
Not sure there is a fix yet, but the bug was confirmed at least…
I had to stop using the backdrop for this reason (and please, no comments on how no one uses the backdrop - I quite liked it… and it used to work fine up to MacOS Ventura but has severely malfunctioned since…)
S.
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:31 pm
by dunbarx
Stam..
I will not comment on the non-use of backdrops.
Craig
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:39 pm
by stam
For which I’m already eternally grateful…
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:37 pm
by richmond62
My 'Devawriter Pro' has a virtual backdrop substack which contains this code:
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on preOpenStack
put ((item 3 of the screenRect) + 20) into WIDD
put ((item 4 of the screenRect) + 20) into HITE
set the width of stack "DESKER" to WIDD
set the height of stack "DESKER" to HITE
set the loc of stack "DESKER" to the screenLoc
end preOpenStack
on openStack
set the backgroundColor of stack "Answer Dialog" to white
end openStack
on mouseDown
toplevel stack "DWPro"
end mouseDown
on mouseUp
toplevel stack "DWPro"
end mouseUp
It should be perfectly simple to modify this as a plugin for the IDE.
HOWEVER, my latest 'problem' is, while I know how to push a stack to the front [toplevel] what I don't know how to do is push a stack so that it is behind ALL the other stacks and palettes that are open at the moment.
I worked this one up in 2017 because the LC backdrop was mucking me around at the time.
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:25 pm
by dunbarx
Richmond.
So the first thing I did was get a list of the "properties" of two brand new stacks in a new session. I found no "layer" property, or anything like it. Of course, the "properties" property is famous for being incomplete. Anyway, there may not be an analog to the "layer" property for stacks. If one asks, the layer of both stacks was 0.
Of course, a kludge would be to get a list of the stacks, and topLevel all but the one you want to be in back.
Somehow I am sure there is a more direct way...
Craig
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:27 pm
by dunbarx
The kludge above suffers from the very issue at hand. Unless you knew the "layer" of each stack, you will certainly bury the one of interest all the way down, but you very well may ruin whatever "layer" order you had to begin with.
If that matters...
Craig
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:33 pm
by richmond62
The logical corollary of
topLevel, is surely,
bottomLevel; and very useful it would be . . .
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Curses!
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:55 pm
by richmond62
HOWEVER: palettised stacks remain in front of my kludgey backdrop:
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So, one could have a script to list ALL the open stacks inwith the faux backdrop stackScript; all those stacks could be momentarily palettised so they remain in front of the faux backdrop, and then depalettised.
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:03 pm
by dunbarx
"BottomLevel" is far too limited if we are going to exhort Scotland to really get going on this. Think big: stacks need a "layer" property, unless they already have one somewhere.
I still think they must, somewhere.
Craig
Re: Stack Window Disappears
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:05 pm
by dunbarx
Hey, anyone remember the OP, ScruffyCoder, and the original issue?
Is everything OK with you about those pesky windows?
Craig