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Now, here's something strange. At least, I think it is. Maybe someone can explain what is happening here...

I decided I wanted to provide an on-screen tutorial for an app. So I placed an arrow next to a button, and supplied some narrative to explain what a button tap would do.

Then I thought, I'll make the arrow move briefly over the button, to simulate a button tap.

Here's the arrow...



And the code I used...


So, the arrow moves to its new location for 20 ticks...



and then moves back. The effect is quite good. This is fine, so I don't have a problem that needs to be solved, but...

I figured the movement would look smoother if I used 'move' instead of 'set the loc of'. So I changed the above code to...
I was right about the smoothness, but look what happens with 'move'...



The arrow seems to embed itself in the button image! It's what a real arrow would do, which is kind of cute, but not what I wanted!

The arrow is not below the button image, nor on top, but stuck halfway in.

Can anyone explain this? BTW: the arrow image is the top numbered layer, so it's not going behind another layer.

Strange huh?

--paul

Is the rect of the arrow control still the same?

shaosean wrote:Is the rect of the arrow control still the same?

Yes. I don't change the size, only the location of the arrow.

--paul

Selamat Datang Paul,

Can you post the stack in attachment ?

Best regards
Jean-Marc

I'd rather not, Jean-Marc ... it's quite large.

As I mentioned, it doesn't bother me. I don't need a solution. I just find it really bizarre.

--paul

paulsr wrote:

shaosean wrote:Is the rect of the arrow control still the same?

Yes. I don't change the size, only the location of the arrow.

--paul

You need to answer the question asked, not that question you thought was asked
After you do the move to command, is the rect still the same?

shaosean wrote:You need to answer the question asked, not that question you thought was asked

Slap on wrist. Must try harder.

shaosean wrote:After you do the move to command, is the rect still the same?

The rect before the move is 69,159,111,201 and after the first move is 53,159,95,210 because I moved the arrow 16px horizontally. After the second move, the arrow goes back to 69,159,111,201. HTH.

--paul

I've never seen that before, it is kind of cute. It looks like a redraw problem to me. What happens if you lock and unlock the screen after the move to force a redraw?

move img tAortn to tX,tY in 20 ticks
lock screen
unlock screen

paulsr wrote:Slap on wrist. Must try harder.

yes

shaosean wrote:The rect before the move is 69,159,111,201 and after the first move is 53,159,95,210 because I moved the arrow 16px horizontally. After the second move, the arrow goes back to 69,159,111,201. HTH.

k.. everything seems to be fine there, so it seems like a weird redraw issue as jacque mentioned..

jacque wrote:I've never seen that before, it is kind of cute. It looks like a redraw problem to me. What happens if you lock and unlock the screen after the move to force a redraw?

move img tAortn to tX,tY in 20 ticks
lock screen
unlock screen

Makes no difference Jacqueline.

Just to test, I tried moving the arrow to a different place on the card, where there are no underlying images except for the background. Now I can see better what is happening. If I move the arrow 16px to the left, the 16 left-most pixels of the image disappear ... and return, when I move the image back to its original position.

So the button image is a red herring. The arrow is not really embedding itself in the button it's just partly disappearing!

--paul

What about using the relative form of the move command?

Okay, mystery solved!

I've just realized that the arrow, which is 42x42 is inside a group which is 50x50. If part of the arrow "moves" outside the boundary of the group it becomes invisible. Whereas if I "set the location of" the arrow it doesn't seem to matter if part of the arrow is outside the group.

To which you will probably all say "We knew that!"

--paul

Had there been a mention of it being grouped, we would have said that

Essential info. You can use the move command if you move the group instead of a single image. Or, set the lockloc of the group to false and move only the arrow. Without being locked, the group will expand automatically to show its entire content.

If your group is already unlocked then I'm at a loss why setting the location is different than moving. They should be the same. See "boundingRect" in the dictionary though, it may be that the group's boundingRect is not empty, which will prevent it from expanding.

shaosean wrote:Had there been a mention of it being grouped, we would have said that

Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I had completely forgotten the arrow image was in a group.

--paul