I recently tried building a complex Android app using AI Studio, and honestly, the results blew my mind. I’ve been waiting forever for the LiveCode Create release, but the output from LiveCode’s AI feels so far behind, mostly because it still falls into that basic no-code category.
LiveCode could have actually kept its user base if they just dropped that 5% royalty fee. Unfortunately, it looks like the decision has already been made. Now they’re sunsetting LiveCode Classic in 2027 and replacing it with "LiveCode Create Classic"—which, let's be real, is exactly the same thing.
We are in the AI era now. The role of a programmer is shifting from actually writing the code to reviewing AI-generated code.
It’s such a shame. LiveCode, you really made the wrong call here.
Is LiveCode really trying to compete with AI products right now?
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Re: Is LiveCode really trying to compete with AI products right now?
You're not wrong.
I had built a web app and subsequently an API based on livecode server for use with companion apps originally intentioned for building in LiveCode.
(The API was for CRUD operations for the same MariaDB/MySQL DB). The API worked fine, but building the mobile apps in LiveCode was long and painful.
My available time for coding is extremely limited, so I thought I'd just ask Claude Code to build the mobile apps in their native languages (SwiftUI and Kotlin/Compose). I used my web app as the basis and provided a long explanation of what I wanted, each platform took 1 day and both apps have been accepted to their respective stores. No copy/pasting, Claude Code just wrote the apps and ran them in the Xcode and Android simulators for testing and after a few revisions I was done.
Also worth noting: while i ask for the AI to implement a feature I have in mind, the AI platform analyses the whole app and immediately implements multiple things to support the requested feature that I probably would have arrived at eventually, weeks later.
I personally can't see how LiveCode can compete with this. AI is going to be more cost effective, fully native for each platform using free tooling for never-expiring apps. But the binary nature of stacks means that LC is at a disadvantage, you can't just get AI to create it for you and inevitably it results in a mess of copy/pasting.
So outside of 'fun coding', building apps is a different ballgame now and LiveCode Create needs to adapt. It could create it's own AI and is trying to do this with lCC, but will it really be better that Claude Code or Codex? I doubt it, and it feels like wasted effort when just making stacks amenable to direct editing by AI would open up so much more...
I had built a web app and subsequently an API based on livecode server for use with companion apps originally intentioned for building in LiveCode.
(The API was for CRUD operations for the same MariaDB/MySQL DB). The API worked fine, but building the mobile apps in LiveCode was long and painful.
My available time for coding is extremely limited, so I thought I'd just ask Claude Code to build the mobile apps in their native languages (SwiftUI and Kotlin/Compose). I used my web app as the basis and provided a long explanation of what I wanted, each platform took 1 day and both apps have been accepted to their respective stores. No copy/pasting, Claude Code just wrote the apps and ran them in the Xcode and Android simulators for testing and after a few revisions I was done.
Also worth noting: while i ask for the AI to implement a feature I have in mind, the AI platform analyses the whole app and immediately implements multiple things to support the requested feature that I probably would have arrived at eventually, weeks later.
I personally can't see how LiveCode can compete with this. AI is going to be more cost effective, fully native for each platform using free tooling for never-expiring apps. But the binary nature of stacks means that LC is at a disadvantage, you can't just get AI to create it for you and inevitably it results in a mess of copy/pasting.
So outside of 'fun coding', building apps is a different ballgame now and LiveCode Create needs to adapt. It could create it's own AI and is trying to do this with lCC, but will it really be better that Claude Code or Codex? I doubt it, and it feels like wasted effort when just making stacks amenable to direct editing by AI would open up so much more...