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Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:17 pm
by jameshale
What will,happen with existing business license holders? Will LC 10 and beyond get desktop versions of the new features or does all this mean a development /commercial fork that will leave current licensees stranded?
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:41 pm
by heatherlaine
Hi James,
Our intention is not to leave anyone stranded

Business licenses continue to be Business licenses. LiveCode 10 and beyond continue to receive updates and appropriate new features. To use the Cloud based features will require a Xavvi license, because, well, they are part of Xavvi and need the cloud, with all the associated backend expenses. You will be able to use the Xavvi Extensions pack to bring those features into LiveCode if you have the appropriate licensing. Please see this link:
https://livecode.com/xavvi/xavvi-vs-livecode/
You might also want to sign up for the Q&A we're going to hold next Tuesday (if you haven't already):
https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/registe ... chFvWwVBnA
Best Regards,
Heather
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:44 pm
by heatherlaine
As promised earlier, here is a link to the lesson on Script Widgets by Ali Lloyd:
https://lessons.livecode.com/m/98525/l/ ... ipt-widget
It hasn't made it to a blog post yet but you saw it here first!
Best Regards,
Heather
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:54 pm
by richmond62
richmond2 said:
LC's fundraisers, to which I have donated as much as I have been able
Thank you for donating to our campaigns, it is appreciated.
Fine words butter no parsnips.
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:22 pm
by stam
Dear Heather, thank you for putting me straight - I had completely missed the “tech” and “pricing” sections.
Can I just confirm: is a Xavvi licence separate from a livecode licence? Will one need both to publish to desktop in that case? That would effectively double the cost to me, but not sure if LC will be rolled into Xavvi?
Many thanks
Stam
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:45 pm
by richmond62
I think, Stam, that Xavvi will be like another layer on top of LiveCode: not necessary for development: more an assistant that should make things considerably easier and faster.
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:32 pm
by heatherlaine
Folks,
We're having a free webinar on Xavvi tomorrow where you can see a live demo and bring your questions. In case some of you have missed the invite and would like to join, there is still space:
https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/registe ... RP4tpImShA
I'm really looking forward to seeing so many of you there, its going to be a great session
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:57 pm
by richmond62
As has already been pointed out; that is scheduled really inconveniently.
While I realise that owing to timing, I and others, will not be able to take part (and, I am sure, knowing my pro-active/aggressive stance, you may not regret that . . . ROFL), it would be extremely kind of you if, after the session, you could make a video/transcript available for download and/or online access.
Possibly, despite signals going in other directions, some of the erstwhile 'Community version' users may feel that somethings that come up in that discussion may justify finding the funds to pay for commercial licences.
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:34 pm
by jacque
The session was recorded, you will be able to view it. I'm sure Heather will let us know when it's available.
Someone joined at 1:00 AM local time. Maybe you're just lazy?

Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:57 pm
by richmond62
No: I'm far from lazy, I spent 5.30 - 7 Bulgarian time (i.e. 3.30 - 5 Edinburgh time) explaining mixed conditional sentences to a classroom of teenagers: a laugh, a few jokes, and some difficult grammar.
https://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org ... hird-mixed
Looking forward to the Xavvi video.
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:22 am
by mwieder
Interesting. I don't think I've come across the distinction between "third" and "mixed" conditionals.
That's much more interesting to me that some AI-driven thing.
...except for the Pizza Hug Spot commercial.
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:46 am
by richmond62
Mark, if, like thee and me, thou art a native English speaker (even if of different dialects . . . LOL), thou really hast
no need to be aware of the zero, first, second, third and mixed conditionals as thy English is embedded in thee so deeply
that thou willst have no problem at all either identifying a conditional sentence or understanding what it means.
HOWEVER, speakers of other languages really need to know all these fairly twiddly distinctions to understand what a
conditional sentence means:
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https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resourc ... nditional/
As a teacher I am not meant to talk about sex with the teenagers I teach, so this week, just to spice
things up and get the hormones racing we are going to spend some time on . . .
The Joy of Subjunctives.
With any luck we'll have no teenage pregnancies.

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Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:28 pm
by mwieder
...and while looking into the various conditionals I fell into the rabbit hole of "if I was" vs "if I were".
https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/verbs/ ... -i-were-2/
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:29 pm
by mwieder
Re: Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:08 pm
by jacque
OMG. Scary. Bye-bye ad agencies. .