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Zax wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:36 am And thank you Stam: a modeless stack seems to be a good solution.

• a stack that will only work with the LC 9.6.x IDE (not standalone)
• NO automatic dialog "would you like to save..."
• the ability to manually enter, or to paste, some text in a field
• the possibility of asking the user if he wants to save this stack (or if he really wants to close/exit) when:
  • the user clicks on a "Close" button - "close this stack" by script
  • the user clicks on the standard closing box (the red MacOS circle)
  • the user quits LC - "Quit" article menu

Zax wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:13 am What I would like:

• a stack that will only work with the LC 9.6.x IDE (not standalone)
• NO automatic dialog "would you like to save..."
• the ability to manually enter, or to paste, some text in a field

Zax wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:13 am [*]the possibility of asking the user if he wants to save this stack (or if he really wants to close/exit) when:

• the user clicks on a "Close" button - "close this stack" by script
• the user clicks on the standard closing box (the red MacOS circle)
• the user quits LC - "Quit" article menu

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on closeStackRequest
    answer "Close or Quit?" with "Quit" and "Close" and "Cancel"
    if it is "cancel" then
        // do nothing
    else if it is "Close" then
        pass closeStackRequest
    else
        quit
    end if
end closeStackRequest

stam wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:11 pm I'm pretty sure you can do this with closeStackReqeust, for example:

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on closeStackRequest
    answer "Close or Quit?" with "Quit" and "Close" and "Cancel"
    if it is "cancel" then
        // do nothing
    else if it is "Close" then
        pass closeStackRequest
    else
        quit
    end if
end closeStackRequest

seems to work fine on my end...

Stam

Zax wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:13 am In fact this solution presents another problem: if a stack is modeless, the shutdownRequest message is received by the stack but I cannot block the process.

Note: Applications will not receive this message when running in the IDE.

stam wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:48 am Just for my own curiosity:

Did you manage to work around the issue with quoting the IDE? (ie shutDownRequest)?
If not, in what way was this better than using a modeless stack?

on preOpenStack
   choose browse tool
   set the cantModify of me to true
   // do preferences stuff here
end preOpenStack

on closeStackRequest // built-in close box
   closeProcess true
end closeStackRequest

on closeProcess askSaveBoolean // things to do before closing
   // save preferences here
   closeCleaningProcess askSaveBoolean
   close me
end closeProcess

on closeCleaningProcess askSaveBoolean
   if (askSaveBoolean) then
      answer "Save data?" with "No" or "Save"
   else get "No"
   if (it = "No") then ... do cleaning
   save me
end closeCleaningProcess

================================ PASTE IN LOCKED STACK =================================
on commandKeyDown tKey
   if (tKey = "V") then
      pasteTextInField the selectedChunk, the id of this card
   else pass commandKeyDown
end commandKeyDown

on pasteTextInField tSelChunk, tCardId
   if (tSelChunk <> "") then
      if (the clipboardData["text"] <> "") then
         put last word of tSelChunk into fldNumber
         if (not the lockText of fld fldNumber of card id tCardId) then
            put word 2 of tSelChunk into charStart
            put word 4 of tSelChunk into charEnd
            put the clipboardData["text"] into char charStart to charEnd of fld fldNumber of card id tCardId
            select after char (charStart + the length of the clipboardData["text"] - 1) of fld fldNumber of card id tCardId
         end if
      end if
   end if
end pasteTextInField

stam wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:17 pmYour code above works identically if the closeStackRequest is removed.

on preOpenStack
   set the style of this stack to "modeless"
   // read preferences here
end preOpenStack

on closeStack // closed by script or with built-in close box
   askTosave
   pass closeStack
end closeStack

on askToSave
   answer "Save data?" with "No" and "Save"
   if it is "Save" then 
      save me
      // update and save preferences here, no cleanup needed
   end if
end askToSave

Zax wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:22 pm Something is happening that I don't understand: if you quit, the stack is automatically saved (which doesn't suit me) whereas in the LiveCode-Error-Lookup.rev stack, the modifications are not saved.

I tried looking at the scripts for LiveCode-Error-Lookup.rev but couldn't find anything conclusive.

Zax wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:22 pm Something is happening that I don't understand: if you quit, the stack is automatically saved (which doesn't suit me) whereas in the LiveCode-Error-Lookup.rev stack, the modifications are not saved.

I tried looking at the scripts for LiveCode-Error-Lookup.rev but couldn't find anything conclusive.

on closeStack
    answer "Save?" with "Save" and "No"
    if it is "No" then
        // do nothing
    else if it is "Save" then
        save this stack
    end if
end closeStack

FourthWorld wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:11 pm It's also worth keeping in mind the difference between why and how we save changes during development, and what gets saved for our users at runtime. That seems to be separate from this thread, but worth keeping in mind early on since windows physically attached to the standalone cannot be saved at all (OSes generally prevent app modification at runtime). User data is often best handled as a separate file and often in a format other than a stackfile. We can cover those options as the question raises; for now just keep in mind that these questions of saving are specific to developing in the IDE, and you have total control over how all of this is done in the user experience you deliver in your app.