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Scale or zoom on stack for visibility

Post by seaniepie » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:14 pm

Hi All,
It's been rumoured about the release of the iPad3 and it looks likely they will be adding retina support for it. This posses a problem for most of use that will be developing for it. I already have a problem when developing for the standard iPad on my Macbook. The dimensions for the iPad retina display will be 2048×1536!! The largest my displays go to at the moment is 1920 x 1200. My MacBook pro can show my iPad apps ok but it does mean a lot of inspector/script/dictionary/appBrowser window shuffling.

What I propose is a feature that allows you to do a 50% and 25% scale down of the stack display. This will give us simulated displays of 1024x768 and 512x384 for both iPad types. This benefit could also cross over to development for all other platforms.

If additionally there were support for scaling up to 150% and 200% (and scrollable) it would make it easier to place objects far more accurately in the stack display.

I understand that this would likely add an overhead to the overall performance in the stack simulator but the benefits would far outweigh the drawbacks in development.

All the best
Pi

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Re: Scale or zoom on stack for visibility

Post by Mark » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:56 pm

Hi,

If you build for iPhone 3 or iPad 2, the app will be compatible with iPhone 4 and iPad 3 but you won't need to worry about retina. You only need to target iPhone 4 and iPad 3 if you want to take advantage of special features, including the higher screen resolution.

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Re: Scale or zoom on stack for visibility

Post by seaniepie » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:58 am

Not true. Of course I need to 'worry about retina'. I want to see it as it IS on the retina screen, 1:1, when dealing with precision. However, I will also want to see it full screen, 2:1 or 4:1. Or maybe real close up, 1:2 or 1:4. iPad development (1,2 or 3!) is near impossible on, say, a standard macBook. 'So get a bigger screen' I hear you say. Fine, but this still doesn't solve it fully for the iPad3 as it has a screen res bigger than any display out there! But like I say, the ramifications of adding this as a feature to Livecode goes far beyond iOS as a benefit to all users.

I'm not looking for workarounds, I need solutions. This is, after all, the Feature Request board. Not the 'Ive got a workaround for that' board. :wink:

Pi

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Re: Scale or zoom on stack for visibility

Post by Mark » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:36 am

Hi,

So, you just want to be able to zoom in and out on stack windows?

I don't know if it helps, but Color Converter contains a magnifying glass :-)

You might like this. It still won't suddenly give you a Mac with Retina resolution though.

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Re: Scale or zoom on stack for visibility

Post by kdjanz » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:45 am

Unfortunately, Apple disabled AppleDisplayScaleFactor in Lion and it no longer works for any program. I can't find any hints on what it might of been renamed or where it's hidden now.

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Re: Scale or zoom on stack for visibility

Post by seaniepie » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:58 pm

This has nothing to do with that. Anyone here used Photoshop? Or Flash? Or any graphics program? Zoom in. Zoom out. Sound familiar. No need for apples AppleDisplayScaleFactor. Or any dumb ass magnifying glass. Cummon. We can code this. It's what we do. Why does everyone here always join the 'workaround' crew? Lets just have tools that work! Zoom in, zoom out. Done!

FEATURE REQUESTS REMEMBER PEOPLE! FEATURE REQUESTS!!

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Re: Scale or zoom on stack for visibility

Post by Mark » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:08 pm

Actually I have nothing against it as a feature request. I'm used to looking for workarounds because I'll never get my projects started if I have to wait for RunRev to implement my requests.

My magnifying glass is not dumb ass.

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