Shift Backspace Woes
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Shift Backspace Woes
Hi all,
Over the entire duration of my time using LiveCode, I have never quite explored this topic, but it repeatedly happens, usually when I am least expecting it...
When I am in the Property Inspector for any object, writing in the title or the content box (or some other text field in the PI), I will hit Backspace and the control associated with the Property Inspector I am currently in will be DELETED. I am almost positive this is due to my holding down the Shift key when I hit Backspace... usually due to my trying to adhere to good scripting and naming style by capitalizing only the first letter of every word of a control name, etc., and not timing the lift of my pinky finger with the Backspace press.
Is this a "feature" of LiveCode? What could it POSSIBLY be useful for? Is anyone else ready to become a menace to society over it? (I have unwittingly deleted dozens of objects, and since LiveCode is not very good and "Undoing" object deletions...grr). I am often left with hours of extra work to recover from one simple mis-timed keystroke that doesn't appear to me to have a useful function in the first place and is just a recipe for disaster in this (evidently common for me) use-case.
Input? Feedback? Anyone know if this is supposed to happen? I'm using a Mac, if that matters.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Phil E.
Over the entire duration of my time using LiveCode, I have never quite explored this topic, but it repeatedly happens, usually when I am least expecting it...
When I am in the Property Inspector for any object, writing in the title or the content box (or some other text field in the PI), I will hit Backspace and the control associated with the Property Inspector I am currently in will be DELETED. I am almost positive this is due to my holding down the Shift key when I hit Backspace... usually due to my trying to adhere to good scripting and naming style by capitalizing only the first letter of every word of a control name, etc., and not timing the lift of my pinky finger with the Backspace press.
Is this a "feature" of LiveCode? What could it POSSIBLY be useful for? Is anyone else ready to become a menace to society over it? (I have unwittingly deleted dozens of objects, and since LiveCode is not very good and "Undoing" object deletions...grr). I am often left with hours of extra work to recover from one simple mis-timed keystroke that doesn't appear to me to have a useful function in the first place and is just a recipe for disaster in this (evidently common for me) use-case.
Input? Feedback? Anyone know if this is supposed to happen? I'm using a Mac, if that matters.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Phil E.
Re: Shift Backspace Woes
Yipes.
And I thought the problem of inadvertently renaming ones stack when not careful with typing in other places with a live open inspector was a nuisance.
I guess, since this is so fixed and reproducible a process, that it is a feature. But it is a lousy feature.
Craig Newman
And I thought the problem of inadvertently renaming ones stack when not careful with typing in other places with a live open inspector was a nuisance.
I guess, since this is so fixed and reproducible a process, that it is a feature. But it is a lousy feature.
Craig Newman
Re: Shift Backspace Woes
Yes, Craig! I have noticed the stack renaming one, as well. Very much a nuisance.
And as I said, I have not really tested my theory that that is exactly what causes it. The nature of this "feature" is such that it is always a surprise to me while I am deep in the flow of working on something else, so I have never broken my work pattern to go try and discover it before.
It's just the best I can tell from having had it happen so many times.
Phil
And as I said, I have not really tested my theory that that is exactly what causes it. The nature of this "feature" is such that it is always a surprise to me while I am deep in the flow of working on something else, so I have never broken my work pattern to go try and discover it before.
It's just the best I can tell from having had it happen so many times.
Phil
Re: Shift Backspace Woes
Actually, Craig, that happens simultaneously. I just looked at my stack name and was surprised to see that it had been renamed to the title of the now-deleted control I was originally trying to correct. So I think these two things are very much related.
Phil
Phil
Re: Shift Backspace Woes
Another pain in the ass (I am german I can write that!
) is the fact that hitting CMD-Z for undo will NOT work for fields!
Delete a button, hit CMD-Z and the button will re-appear, a deleted field will not
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9939

Delete a button, hit CMD-Z and the button will re-appear, a deleted field will not

http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9939
Re: Shift Backspace Woes
Klaus,
Yes, I have read this! One day... go, RunRev, go!!
I've lived in Germany and plan on moving there again in the future... one day I, too, will be allowed to type the phrase "pain in the ass" as I please...
sau geil!
Phil
Yes, I have read this! One day... go, RunRev, go!!
I've lived in Germany and plan on moving there again in the future... one day I, too, will be allowed to type the phrase "pain in the ass" as I please...

Phil
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Re: Shift Backspace Woes
I'm not German, I don't live in Germany (although both of my sons have spent quite a bit of their educational lives there):
I am Scots and I stay in Bulgaria.
However the only problem I have with "pain in the ass" is how one can experience pain felt be another life form (the donkey) . . . LOL.
So, as a Scotsman, in English I can say "pain in the arse."
As a Scotsman, in Scots I can say "it grues ma dowp" or "pain i the erse."
As a Scots man who does not much Gaelic I have to keep quite, although I jalouse there would be something about "mahone" in there.
I thought most Germans would prefer "Ein Schmerz in den Arsch".
I am Scots and I stay in Bulgaria.
However the only problem I have with "pain in the ass" is how one can experience pain felt be another life form (the donkey) . . . LOL.
So, as a Scotsman, in English I can say "pain in the arse."
As a Scotsman, in Scots I can say "it grues ma dowp" or "pain i the erse."
As a Scots man who does not much Gaelic I have to keep quite, although I jalouse there would be something about "mahone" in there.
I thought most Germans would prefer "Ein Schmerz in den Arsch".
Re: Shift Backspace Woes
Richmond,
You have made me laugh aloud!
Thank you for teaching me the ways.
Phil
You have made me laugh aloud!
Thank you for teaching me the ways.
Phil