livecode 8.1 dictionary not working

[Ed_Ray]

I am using livecode community version 8.1. Currently I have been unable to open up the dictionary. When I attempt to open up the dictionary it comes up with a blank screen and eventually my windows 7 SP1 says the dictionary is non-responding.

All other parts of livecode are working well and I was unable to find any info to fix this in the livecode forum (unless I just missed it).

Therefore I used Revo uninstaller Pro to uninstall livecode then reinstall it later.
Revo initially uses the uninstaller from livecode then after this part gets done Revo lets you scan for any remaining entries in the registry and any other places livecode has left its footprints.

Typically Revo does a very good job of removing the entire program completely, unfortunately when I reinstalled livecode and opened the messagebox old entries where still there implying that a complete uninstall did not happen and yes when I tried to open up the dictionary I still had the SAME problem with the dictionary obviously because the program was NOT completely uninstalled.

Can someone provide guidance in ***COMPLETELY*** removing livecode 8.1 so that I can do a fresh install and then be able to get my dictionary back in working form unless someone knows how to fix the dictionary without requiring a re-install?

I tried the online version of the dictionary as a temporary work around but it’s not the same. As an example, if you go to the repeat loop section the explanation for all the different loop types and the actual layouts for the diff loop types are not there etc.

Thanks

[LiveCode_Panos]

Hi Ed_Ray,

When LC starts, it reads a "Preference" file, which loads the most recent user settings/actions. This "Preference" file is the same for all the LC versions you have installed on your machine. This is why even after installing a fresh copy of LC, you still see the old entries in the message box.

On Windows this file is located in C:/Users/your_user_name/AppData/Roaming/RunRev/Preferences/ folder.

You should see one or two files there:

livecode.rev --> Prefs for LiveCode versions < 7
livecode7.rev --> Prefs for LiveCode 7 and 8

I suggest removing both of those files. A fresh copy of those files will be re-created once you start LiveCode again

Moreover, you could delete your Plugins folder. This is where your Plugins or Extensions (i.e. widgets) are stored - if any. This is usually located in Documents, and named "My_LiveCode". I would suggest renaming this folder instead of deleting it, as you might have important files in it, which you don't want to trash.

Finally, you could delete the "Documentation Cache" folder. This is located in C:/Users/your_user_name/AppData/Local/RunRev/Preferences/
Again, this folder will be recreated once you start LiveCode again.

Best,
Panos
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[Ed_Ray]

Thank you so much for this information.

Since this information could preclude a complete fresh install, I feel this information should be
readily available in a common forum area for information that affect a complete re-installation or it should be part of a readme file that comes as part of the installation.

This information is THAT important and nobody other than folks that have already directly been told where these files are or are the actual developers that created the installation information, would "magically" know where they would be located etc.

I will use your information to attempt a fresh re-install so that I could access my dictionary once again.

By the way do you know of a way to bring back the dictionary without a re-install when the dictionary comes up blank then eventually states no response. I am sure I am not the first person that has run into this issue with the dictionary right?

Thanks again.

[richmond62]

This is extremely intersting as I have been having a similar problem with Livecode 8.0 onwards on Ubuntu Linux.

Bug report 16901

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16901

[MaxV]

On Linux the new dictionary of livecode 8 doesn't work.

[richmond62]

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16848

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16901

[FourthWorld]

On Linux the new dictionary of livecode 8 doesn't work.

LiveCode doesn't run on the Linux kernel alone; it requires a Linux distribution, with supporting GUI libs.

The Dictionary works well here on Ubuntu. What distro are you running?

[wsamples]

On Linux the new dictionary of livecode 8 doesn't work.

To amplify on what Richard is saying; this kind of statement is far too broad, just not true, counterproductive for you as an affected user, unhelpful for anyone who may be interested in helping you, and possibly bad for LiveCode because it's the kind of bold statement that can spread as misinformation and FUD. It's important to recognize that LiveCode may not work properly for you as a result of the distro you've chosen, or the version, including whether or not it's a "spin" of an otherwise supported distro/version. It may not work properly for you depending on libraries you may have added, updated or removed, or changes you have made to certain settings in a supported distro/version. Some features can be affected by compositing issues which can be caused anywhere in the hardware/software chain. That it doesn't work for you can never be assumed to mean it "doesn't work"! In this case, for all the troublesome behavior I see here in various versions of openSUSE, the dictionary seems to work perfectly.

It really is important to state your difficulties as being local to your system and give some relevant information regarding at least the distro name and version and the desktop environment you're using!

[MaxV]

I work on at least 4 different linux machines ubuntu based (Mint or Ubuntu) 32 bit and 64 bit, no one works the new dictionary.
The old dictionary worked perfectly. (and I admit I was better designed)

[FourthWorld]

I work on at least 4 different linux machines ubuntu based (Mint or Ubuntu) 32 bit and 64 bit, no one works the new dictionary.

Have you run LC with ldd to determine if there are unmet dependencies?

[MaxV]

One of the problems is the linux version doesn't create these 2 files:

• ~/.runrev/documentationcache/8_xxx_community/api.html
• ~/.runrev/documentationcache/8_xxx_community/guide.html

then the widget browser, used for documentation, tends to crash the livecode IDE.
Every time I try to use the browser widget, I get crashes or the famous "something" error. With the something error the only option is xkill

[FourthWorld]

Useful details, Max. What's the ID number of the bug report where you've included those so the team can address that?

Any ideas why that's happening on your Ubuntu install but not others?

[MaxV]

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16848