Using Livecode on iPads

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Using Livecode on iPads

Post by grant.kirk » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:03 pm

I have used LiveCode on Macs in the past however I am in a role now where I am delivering courses on iPads.
Is it possible for me to use Livecode to create programs/apps on the iPad?

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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by jmburnod » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:23 pm

Hi,
Yes you can 8)
https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4069
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by grant.kirk » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:04 pm

I can see where to install LiveCode on a Mac or a PC but no option for on the iPad. I am hoping to teach LiveCode using iPads - the idea to install a version of LiveCode on the iPads so my classes can use LiveCode to create apps. Is there an iOS version that I can install on my class set of iPads?

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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by richmond62 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:09 pm

Is there an iOS version that I can install on my class set of iPads?
No, there isn't.
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by jmburnod » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Sorry, I misunderstand your post.
Richmond is right, there i not a version of LC which allow to work livecode on an iPad.
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by jmburnod » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:45 pm

if learning code is the goal you may use an app iOS to watch how liveCode works.
you may use a fld to write script, test it with do command and export your script to a textfile you will can import.
ok you can't have edit script tools (indentation is very useful).
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by FourthWorld » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:43 pm

grant.kirk wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:04 pm
I can see where to install LiveCode on a Mac or a PC but no option for on the iPad. I am hoping to teach LiveCode using iPads - the idea to install a version of LiveCode on the iPads so my classes can use LiveCode to create apps. Is there an iOS version that I can install on my class set of iPads?
LiveCode is a development environment, available (as you've seen) for macOS, Windows, and Linux.

Apps you create with LiveCode can be deployed to those three desktop platforms, and you can also make and deploy apps to iOS and Android. With mobile platforms, LiveCode can be used to make apps for both phones and tablets.

So yes, you can can deploy courseware you create to iPad.

You'll create those applications on a desktop OS.
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by richmond62 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:48 pm

So yes, you can can deploy courseware you create to iPad.
But these will, of necessity, be standalone apps and NOT editable code.

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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by grant.kirk » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:42 pm

Thanks for the feedback folks. I have used LiveCode a fair bit on Macs - but not for a year. Do all my teaching on iPads now so keen to find a range of languages suitable for High School pupils. Would like to use LiveCode but hands are tied I suppose. Thanks for your time.

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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by FourthWorld » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:35 pm

grant.kirk wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:42 pm
Do all my teaching on iPads now so keen to find a range of languages suitable for High School pupils.
What types of programs do you have the students make on the tablets? Is the classroom brand-specific, or does you need to support Android as well?

LiveCode is uncommonly well suited for learners in that age group - you may like this study using cognitive load to select a teaching language:
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... evelopment

Most app development tools, even Apple's, are limited to the desktop. But depending on what's needed, some programming tasks can work well on a tablet.

If we learn more about the types of programs the kids are making we may be able to find a suitable solution with LiveCode.
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by kdjanz » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:55 am

I hate to say it because I am making progress learning LiveCode in my dotage and I've never made significant progress with Swift, BUT ...

Given your constraint of teaching off iPads in a classroom, Apple has put significant resources into their Swift Education package. There are textbooks, teacher's guides, extended resources etc all in support of the Playgrounds program that runs on almost any newer iPad. It's all laid out for you and tailored and tested to your exact situation.

I don't think Swift is as intuitive as LiveCode, but it is open source, multi platform, mainstream and certainly instantly applicable outside the classroom for any student that gets hooked and wants to explore. Take a look at what is out there and see if it works for you as a possibility.

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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by FourthWorld » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:43 am

There may be a way to do what he wants to do. It all depends on the types of apps he wants his students to make. After all, the LiveCode IDE itself is made with LiveCode, and there are nearly infinite ways to make IDEs...
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by bogs » Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:58 am

FourthWorld wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:43 am
...there are nearly infinite ways to make IDEs...
Richard, I am not quoting you to dog you in a thread, you just had the most appropriate line available.

I had meant to reply to this thread earlier, unfortunately time is not what it once was for me at the moment. As for a mobile version of the IDE, Neil wrote this *very* interesting article about just that, giving a skeleton outline of how it might work.

Unfortunately, I came across it at a time where I did not have time to seriously look at it, although I did test a number of his thoughts <code> out, it does seem like a plausible way to go for a mobile dev. environment.

Keep in mind it is the equivalent of a 'rough draft' as he points out, but it may be a good start at what you (the OP) are looking for.
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by FourthWorld » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:08 pm

Thanks for posting that, Bogs. It looks very useful as a starting point for designing the sort of environment the OP is looking for.

Hopefully he'll return to describe what he's looking for. :)
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Re: Using Livecode on iPads

Post by bogs » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:21 pm

I did have time to test it out a little more thoroughly, and it does have some promise for people looking to dev *on* an actual mobile device, with caveats of course.

There are a lot of little details that would be needed (aside from polished looks) to make it what the OP is looking for, but it looked to me like a good starting point.

Code editing would be where I would start cleaning things up, especially if this is intended merely for an aid to teaching, but I think Neil made an excellent prototype indeed.
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