FourthWorld wrote:Garrett wrote:Let's just simplify this and call it what it is. Mailing list tend to create
what's called the "Good Ol' Boy" club where certain users feel they have
the right to say and do as they wish on the mailing list.
The club develops into an almost religious cult, and if anyone disagrees
with them, they are crusified with a vengence.
If a new user shows up and declares that RunRev has somehow sold their collective soul to Satan because they ship before fixing every known issue, that user will receive an introduction to software development processes, regardless of venue.
Many new users for many years have raved about the list as a helpful resource.
LOL!
First off, this isn't about me. It's about the mailing list.
The fact that you immediately pick out only one of the things I brought
up on the mailing list kind of shows the mentality of how the list works.
And also by describing it with a colorful new description (less than
appropriate and also quite misleading) also adds to my statement about
the mailing list.
You fail to mention that I was not the one who initially started that thread
on the list, that it was someone else who was complaining about bugs
that have been in Rev for sometime. I agreed with that person and also
expressed my feelings and opinions regarding that subject.
Of course I was nailed to the cross immediately and then pelted with
rocks and sticks, and then left to die!
You also fail to mention the other new and or not so new users who post
something that is not positive are also crusified.
I have also mentioned, even after being crusified, that the people on the
list are very very helpful. I am not attacking individuals at all. I am
simply stating the obvious about the list.
On a personal side, since you used my situation as the example. Instead
of crusifying me, or attempting to brainwash me into the likes of those in
the club, it might have just been better to stay out of it, but that's not how
it went now is it. Instead of keeping it simple, those who participated felt
compelled to point out the errors of my way and explain in great length
of how I should think like them and accept it all as the defacto. Almost
like a religious cult of some sort... Convert to our ways or die!
Is that how it's suppose to be Richard? Or should we at least be allowed
to express our views and opinions without being hung?
Anyway, back to the topic
It's also a deterent when a new user to the mailing list gets hundreds of
emails in their box from the mailing list. Of which, 90% of that is
ego-chatter from members of the club. The list I believe was there for
people seeking help and to give help, not a forum for debating over who's
dung stinks the least, or who's nose is higher in the air than the other.
Honestly, mailing list are really kind of outdated now. Forums allow a
community to organize and focus better than a mailing list ever could.
And now users can rave about how the forum is a very helpful place.
-Garrett
If you like one but not the other -- all the better, there are more choices.
me! Ho... are you the Jerry Muelver of these nice