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Report on cross platform tools

Post by paul_gr » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:54 am

Hi All,

Report on cross platform tools can be obtained here. Livecode is one of the tools reviewed in the report.

http://www.visionmobile.com/crossplatformtools.php


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Re: Report on cross platform tools

Post by mwieder » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:13 am

Ahem...
CPT vendors without a compelling free product will be washed out by the competition.

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Re: Report on cross platform tools

Post by Mark » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:36 am

I think this reputation is a real problem:
If you are... a Software developer And you want... to Prototype ideas with a rapid development cycle Then use... RunRev LiveCode, Proto.io
If LiveCode is only for prototyping, then what's the point? I wouldn't need all those features if I were just prototyping and 1200 euro is too much for the complete package if I were only prototyping.

The reputation problem has two sides. First, it seems that LiveCode has a quality problem, which makes people think that it isn't fit for production work. Second, apparently I'm all wrong and I shouldn't be using LiveCode for my projects. The second issue worries me most, the first issue is something for RunRev to worry about.

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Re: Report on cross platform tools

Post by paul_gr » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:26 pm

There is a perception anything that is easy to read and compile is 'scripting' and is inferior to 'real' programming.
Until recently most programmers could stay on one platform, use industry standard tools and be comfortable working with what they know. Cross platform programming (ie using something like Livecode) takes people out of their comfort zone.
We all have our favourite operating environments.

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Re: Report on cross platform tools

Post by Gene » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:52 am

paul_gr wrote:There is a perception anything that is easy to read and compile is 'scripting' and is inferior to 'real' programming...
I hope the below quote isn't too far off topic. It's an except from from a longer, hilarious description of how different disciplines go about hunting elephants in Africe. I was reminded of it because I think the last sentence speaks to low level programming language snobbery:

"MATHEMATICIANS hunt elephants by going to Africa, throwing out everything that is not an elephant, and catching one of whatever is left.

EXPERIENCED MATHEMATICIANS will attempt to prove the existence of at least one unique elephant before proceeding to step 1 as a subordinate exercise.

COMPUTER SCIENTISTS hunt elephants by exercising Algorithm A:
1. Go to Africa.
2. Start at the Cape of Good Hope.
3. Work northward in an orderly manner, traversing the continent
alternately east and west.
4. During each traverse pass,
a. Catch each animal seen.
b. Compare each animal caught to a known elephant.
c. Stop when a match is detected.

EXPERIENCED COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS modify Algorithm A by placing a known elephant in Cairo to ensure that the algorithm will terminate.

ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE PROGRAMMERS prefer to execute Algorithm A on their hands and knees."

Actually, I don't think that the article was all that criticle of LiveCode. Maybe I misread it, but it seemed to show that LC stacks up pretty well alongside the competition when everything is taken into account.

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Re: Report on cross platform tools

Post by Mark » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:37 am

Hi Gene,

The report wasn't too critical about any of the tools. Possibly because the tools publishers sponsored the report. The report contains remarks, though, which are indicative of a few problems RunRev is facing.

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