Multiplying with 2-d arrays
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Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Hi there,
This is my code: where n = the number of elements in the array "bigarray"
repeat with loop = 0 to n - 1
put bigarray[loop][0] into kmphour[loop][0]
if bigarray[loop][1] = 0 or bigarray[loop][2] = 0 then
put 0 into kmphour[loop][1] -- If either value = 0, the speed with also be 0
else
put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
end if
end repeat
When I run it, it returns the error:
button "Start the program": execution error at line 132 (Operators *: error in left operand), char 49
Is it possible to multiply using arrays? Is there a fault with my code?
Thanks.
This is my code: where n = the number of elements in the array "bigarray"
repeat with loop = 0 to n - 1
put bigarray[loop][0] into kmphour[loop][0]
if bigarray[loop][1] = 0 or bigarray[loop][2] = 0 then
put 0 into kmphour[loop][1] -- If either value = 0, the speed with also be 0
else
put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
end if
end repeat
When I run it, it returns the error:
button "Start the program": execution error at line 132 (Operators *: error in left operand), char 49
Is it possible to multiply using arrays? Is there a fault with my code?
Thanks.
Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Could you kindly tell us what is line 132 ?
This could help us to help you
Thierry
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Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Hi Louis,
I tried your code and it seems to work. Make a field and put this into a button:
If I understood you correctly your routine works. It must be another error.
Kind regards
Bernd
I tried your code and it seems to work. Make a field and put this into a button:
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on mouseUp
repeat with loop = 0 to 9 -- lets make 10 loops
repeat with n = 0 to 2 -- with 3 subarrays per loop
put random(3)-1 into bigarray[loop][n] -- fill the subarray with random numbers between 0 and 2
put random(3)-1 into kmphour[loop][n]
end repeat
end repeat
arrayDo bigArray, kmphour -- pass this to your routine
end mouseUp
on arrayDo bigarray, kmphour
put the keys of bigarray into tKeys
put the number of lines of tKeys into n
repeat with loop = 0 to n - 1
put bigarray[loop][0] into kmphour[loop][0]
if bigarray[loop][1] = 0 or bigarray[loop][2] = 0 then
put 0 into kmphour[loop][1] -- If either value = 0, the speed with also be 0
else
put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
end if
end repeat
-- lets collect the data and display it in a field
put 0 into loop
repeat with loop = 0 to n -1
put "Loop: " & loop + 1 after tCollect
put tab & tab & "km/h" && kmpHour[loop][1] & cr after tCollect
end repeat
delete last char of tCollect -- a return
put tCollect into field 1
end arrayDo
Kind regards
Bernd
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Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Hi, thanks for your replies.
Line 132 is this part of the code:
put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
And this is the entire program:
It all works fine until the sub-routine "display_fastest_speed", where upon it gives said error.
Any help would be great, as I have no idea how to proceed.
Louis
Line 132 is this part of the code:
put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
And this is the entire program:
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on mouseUp
#Define variables to be passed
local filedirectory, n, bigarray, temp
read_from_file filedirectory, n, bigarray, temp
user_input n, bigarray
Sort_and_display_highest_distances n, bigarray, temp
display_fastest_speed temp, n, bigarray
write_to_file filedirectory, bigarray, n
end mouseup
on read_from_file @filedirectory, n, @bigarray, temp
#Define local variables
local counter
#Clear output field "text"
put empty into field "text"
#Empty variables - livecode saves values
put empty into bigarray
put empty into n
put empty into filedirectory
put empty into temp
#Put file location into variable
put specialfolderpath("desktop") & "/box.txt" into filedirectory
#If there is a file, read the records from the file
if there is a file filedirectory then
open file filedirectory
read from file filedirectory until EOF
close file filedirectory
#Put file into temporary variable
put it into temp
put the number of lines of temp into n #Get the number of lines from text file
split temp by comma
###put temp[1] into line 2 of field "text"
##put 1 into counter
#Nested loop which puts 1-D array "temp" into 2-D array "bigarray"
repeat with loop = 0 to n - 1
repeat with loop2 = 0 to 2
put temp[loop*3 + loop2 + 1] into bigarray[loop][loop2]##########Code works, but silly? Should just keep counter
####add 1 to counter
end repeat
end repeat
else # If there is not a file, create a new empty file
open file filedirectory for write -- creates a file
close file filedirectory -- closes/saves the file
end if
end read_from_file
on user_input @n, @bigarray
#Define local variables
local userinput
#Redefine "n" with bigarray as the subject - CLUNKY ENGLISH
put the number of lines of (the keys of bigarray) into n
#Get new user input
ask "Where have you just been running?"
put it into userinput[0]
ask "In kilometres, how far did you run?"
put it into userinput[1]
ask "In minutes, how long did it take you to run those "&userinput[1]&" kilometres?"
put it into userinput[2]
#Put the user input at the bottom of the array
repeat with loop = 0 to 2
put userinput[loop] into bigarray[n][loop]
end repeat
#The value of n must be increased by 1, as the number of records has been increased by 1
add 1 to n
end user_input
on Sort_and_display_highest_distances n, bigarray, temp
#Clear temp value
put empty into temp
#Sort bigarray on distance high to low
repeat with outer = n - 1 to 0 step -1
repeat with inner = 0 to outer - 1
if bigarray[inner + 1][1] > bigarray[inner][1] then
repeat with loop = 0 to 2
put bigarray[inner][loop] into temp[loop]
put bigarray[inner + 1][loop] into bigarray[inner][loop]
put temp[loop] into bigarray[inner + 1][loop]
end repeat
end if
end repeat
end repeat
put "These are the top 5 distances you have ever ran:" into line 1 of field "text"
repeat with loop = 0 to 4 # display the top 5 records
put "At "&bigarray[loop][0]&" you ran "&bigarray[loop][1]&" kilometres." into line loop + 3 of field "text"
end repeat
end Sort_and_display_highest_distances
on display_fastest_speed temp, n, bigarray
#Clear temp variable value
put empty into temp
#Define local variables
local Kmphour, runlocation
#Fill array "kmphour" with values of fields "distance"*"time taken", taken from array "bigarray"
repeat with loop = 0 to n - 1
put bigarray[loop][0] into kmphour[loop][0] #Put the location feild of "bigarray" into array "kmphour"
if bigarray[loop][1] = 0 or bigarray[loop][2] = 0 then ###IS THIS NECESSARY? WHAT IF USER ENTERS 0?
put 0 into kmphour[loop][1] -- If either value = 0, the speed with also be 0
else
put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
end if
end repeat
#Sort kmphour high to low
repeat with outer = n - 1 to 0 step -1
repeat with inner = 0 to outer - 1
if kmphour[inner + 1][1] > kmphour[inner][1] then
put kmphour[inner][1] into temp
put kmphour[inner + 1][1] into kmphour[inner][1]
put temp into kmphour[inner + 1][1]
put kmphour[inner][0] into runlocation
end if
end repeat
end repeat
#Display the fastest speed ran
put "The fastest speed at which you have ran is "&kmphour[0][1]&" kilometres per hour. This was at "&runlocation&"." into line 9 of field "text"
end display_fastest_speed
on write_to_file filedirectory, bigarray, n
#Opens or creates a new file to be written to
Open file filedirectory for write
#Write the user input to the file
repeat with loop = 0 to n - 1 # Write all the records to the file
if loop = 0 then
write bigarray[loop][0]&","&bigarray[loop][1]&","&bigarray[loop][2] to file filedirectory -- &LF
else if loop = n - 2 then
write ","&bigarray[loop][0]&","&bigarray[loop][1]&","&bigarray[loop][2]&LF to file filedirectory
else
write ","&bigarray[loop][0]&","&bigarray[loop][1]&","&bigarray[loop][2] to file filedirectory -- &LF
end if
end repeat
#Close file after it has been written to
Close file filedirectory
end write_to_file
end mouseup
It all works fine until the sub-routine "display_fastest_speed", where upon it gives said error.
Any help would be great, as I have no idea how to proceed.
Louis
Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Hi Louis,
It looks like bigarray[loop][2] isn't a number. Maybe it is empty?
Mark
It looks like bigarray[loop][2] isn't a number. Maybe it is empty?
Mark
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Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Hi Louis,
I don't know whether you looked at the code I posted.
If you would do that you would see that the exact same line in your codedoes not throw an error in my feeding data to the handler.
I suggest you step through your code with the debugger and see if the variables are appropriately filled.
Furthermore a way do debug this is to isolate the problem and then if it is not solved by then post a the reproducible recipe for the error to occur. Also of help would be to know the structure of your data.
A sample stack with just the error and sample data would be best. Unfortunately you are not yet allowed to upload stacks. It takes some more posts to do that.
The most important step would be to go into the debugger and watch what is in the variables when the error occurs.
Kind regards
Bernd
I don't know whether you looked at the code I posted.
If you would do that you would see that the exact same line in your code
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put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
I suggest you step through your code with the debugger and see if the variables are appropriately filled.
Furthermore a way do debug this is to isolate the problem and then if it is not solved by then post a the reproducible recipe for the error to occur. Also of help would be to know the structure of your data.
A sample stack with just the error and sample data would be best. Unfortunately you are not yet allowed to upload stacks. It takes some more posts to do that.
The most important step would be to go into the debugger and watch what is in the variables when the error occurs.
Kind regards
Bernd
Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Do you mind providing a simple example of your data?
It looks like it is not a single line (based on your code), with items that are comma separated.
Is it like this?
3,2,4,5,6
2,3,4,7,8
or is it like this
4,3,4,5,6,
4,2,4,5,6, -- with trailing comma..
or is it only 2 items per line without trailing comma like this
1,3
3,12
If the 3rd or 1st is the way it is set up, when you use split by comma, you end up with an array like
array[1] = 1
array[2] = 3
3
array[3] = 12
I suspect your code can be greatly simplified (which also makes it easier to debug) but would need a simple example of the data to help optimize.
Also, again as far as the data goes, you might need to check for empty items. (1,3,,4) or confirm that there is no other data issue. Error in left operand is probably pointing at a non-numeric value at some location in your array that is being used for your calculation. So again, check for correct data in your array and eliminate that as a possibility.
It looks like it is not a single line (based on your code), with items that are comma separated.
Is it like this?
3,2,4,5,6
2,3,4,7,8
or is it like this
4,3,4,5,6,
4,2,4,5,6, -- with trailing comma..
or is it only 2 items per line without trailing comma like this
1,3
3,12
If the 3rd or 1st is the way it is set up, when you use split by comma, you end up with an array like
array[1] = 1
array[2] = 3
3
array[3] = 12
I suspect your code can be greatly simplified (which also makes it easier to debug) but would need a simple example of the data to help optimize.
Also, again as far as the data goes, you might need to check for empty items. (1,3,,4) or confirm that there is no other data issue. Error in left operand is probably pointing at a non-numeric value at some location in your array that is being used for your calculation. So again, check for correct data in your array and eliminate that as a possibility.
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Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Hi there,
@Mark:
I thought that as well, so I put in the "if bigarray[loop][1] = 0 or bigarray[loop][2]" "put 0 into kmphour[loop][1]. So I'd thought that if bigarray[loop][2] was empty, it would go through the IF statement?
@Bernd
Thanks a lot for your reply. I had a full look over your code, and ran it in a separate program, and then in my own, and it did indeed work.
I went through the debug, but I could not see the values of either of the 2-d arrays "bigarray" and "kmphour". Upon hovering, they both showed:
1 =
2 =
3 =
However I am certain they do hold values: I put "Put bigarray[0][0] into line 4 of field "text" .... etc at various points and they do definitely hold and pass values.
@sturgis
This is an example of the data, and how it is imported.
The data is saved in a text file, and looks like this:
Haddington,4,20
,East Linton,20,100
,Home,10,50
,Gym,8,16
Then the data is read into the variable temp, which then stores it in 1 column:
temp[1] = Haddington
temp[2] = 4
temp[3] = 20
temp[4] = East Linton
temp[5] = 20
temp[6] = 100
etc....
Then with this loop:
Which puts temp into bigarray like this:
bigarray[0][0] = Haddington
bigarray[0][1] = 4
bigarray[0][2] = 20
bigarray[1][0] = East Linton
bigarray[1][1] = 20
bigarray[1][2] = 100
ect...
I hope this makes it clear how the data is structured. At the end of the program i format it again to make it as it was at the start.
@Mark:
I thought that as well, so I put in the "if bigarray[loop][1] = 0 or bigarray[loop][2]" "put 0 into kmphour[loop][1]. So I'd thought that if bigarray[loop][2] was empty, it would go through the IF statement?
@Bernd
Thanks a lot for your reply. I had a full look over your code, and ran it in a separate program, and then in my own, and it did indeed work.
I went through the debug, but I could not see the values of either of the 2-d arrays "bigarray" and "kmphour". Upon hovering, they both showed:
1 =
2 =
3 =
However I am certain they do hold values: I put "Put bigarray[0][0] into line 4 of field "text" .... etc at various points and they do definitely hold and pass values.
@sturgis
This is an example of the data, and how it is imported.
The data is saved in a text file, and looks like this:
Haddington,4,20
,East Linton,20,100
,Home,10,50
,Gym,8,16
Then the data is read into the variable temp, which then stores it in 1 column:
temp[1] = Haddington
temp[2] = 4
temp[3] = 20
temp[4] = East Linton
temp[5] = 20
temp[6] = 100
etc....
Then with this loop:
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#Nested loop which puts 1-D array "temp" into 2-D array "bigarray"
repeat with loop = 0 to n - 1
repeat with loop2 = 0 to 2
put temp[loop*3 + loop2 + 1] into bigarray[loop][loop2]
end repeat
end repeat
Which puts temp into bigarray like this:
bigarray[0][0] = Haddington
bigarray[0][1] = 4
bigarray[0][2] = 20
bigarray[1][0] = East Linton
bigarray[1][1] = 20
bigarray[1][2] = 100
ect...
I hope this makes it clear how the data is structured. At the end of the program i format it again to make it as it was at the start.
Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
It is now clear yes, however looking things over I suspect there are easier ways. Going to post a little code here to clear up a few things.
Here is a simpler read_from_file. Bigarray and n are declared outside all handlers at the top of the script so that they are persistant script local variables.
No need to pass in values here because you set them all from inside the handler.
Userinput works well, though notice the comment where the 2 arrays are put together. An array can be placed into an array so you don't have to loop through elements and tack them on by hand.
Having read through more of the code i'm struck by the thought that -- in this particular case-- arrays are not necessarily the best option. A flat file would work extremely well, and then when you need to do your sorts you can use the livecode abilities to get to the desired results pretty easy.
So for example, if you adjust your file format so that its a flat file with 3 items
location,distance,time
location,distance,time
its easy enough to add your new location distance time at the end of the file
If you have all your lines in a variable after loading from the file you can do
put the number of lines in myVariable into n
put theNewData into line (n + 1) of myVariable -- there are other ways do do this of course.
THen for your sorts.. distance is easy.
sort lines of myVariable descending numeric by item 2 of each -- will sort by item 2
For the speed use a temporary variable. Something along these lines. So if myVariable has the lines of data, items delimited by comma, rows by cr then
At this point temp contains your data sorted by speed (item 4 of each line) and all you have to do is grab the top line (or lines if you wish) (if there are that many) and use them as you see fit.
A complete rewrite of the script is here. Forgive me if you just really want to use arrays for this, and ignore the following code.
EDIT:
Last comment on this.. If you are going to have large amounts of data you might consider shifting to a simple sqlite database for storage. It would work very well. To get your top 5 distances select from the database order by that field descending numeric, and set a limit to however many top entries you wish to pull out. You could store times in the database also to make selecting top times easy. (for that you can order by speed, limit 1, or I believe you can use the max() database function to locate the entry in question)
EDIT2: edited rewrite slightly to correct ask text.
Here is a simpler read_from_file. Bigarray and n are declared outside all handlers at the top of the script so that they are persistant script local variables.
No need to pass in values here because you set them all from inside the handler.
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on read_from_file
-- bigarray defined as script local at top, no declaration here. Makes it persistant.
-- handler locals are NOT persistant between calls.
#Define local variables
-- only need to declare if you have strict compilation mode on
-- n is used several places and needs to be persistant, so using it as a script local at the top
local counter, filedirectory, temp
#Clear output field "text"
put empty into field "text"
#Empty variables - livecode saves values
# since its declared as a script local, yes it needs to be cleared due to persistance
put empty into bigarray
put specialfolderpath("desktop") & "/box.txt" into filedirectory
#If there is a file, read the records from the file
if there is a file filedirectory then
-- could also do these three lines as a single command.. actually 4 lines. putting directly into temp
## put URL ("file:" & filedirectory) into temp
-- Depending on the file, might need to use "binfile:" instead of file, but from
-- your example, dont' think so
open file filedirectory
read from file filedirectory until EOF
close file filedirectory
put it into temp
put 0 into counter
-- repeat for each is VERy fast. saves a split and a double loop.
-- loop through once and place stuff into big array
repeat for each line tLine in temp
put item 1 of tLine into bigArray[counter][0]
put item 2 of tLine into bigArray[counter][1]
put item 3 of tLine into bigArray[counter][2]
add 1 to counter -- increment counter for next line
end repeat
else # If there is not a file, create a new empty file
-- unchanged. Could do a single line "put empty into url ("file:" & filedirectory) instead. Either works fine.
open file filedirectory for write -- creates a file
close file filedirectory -- closes/saves the file
end if
end read_from_file
Userinput works well, though notice the comment where the 2 arrays are put together. An array can be placed into an array so you don't have to loop through elements and tack them on by hand.
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on user_input
#Define local variables
local userinput
#Redefine "n" with bigarray as the subject - CLUNKY ENGLISH
-- since you start your array at 0 this works well without any extra hoops. Nice!
put the number of lines of (the keys of bigarray) into n
#Get new user input
ask "Where have you just been running?"
put it into userinput[0]
ask "In kilometres, how far did you run?"
put it into userinput[1]
ask "In minutes, how long did it take you to run those "&userinput[1]&" kilometres?"
put it into userinput[2]
-- No need for repeat loop here, you can put an array into an array element directly.
#Put the user input at the bottom of the array
put userinput into bigarray[n]
#The value of n must be increased by 1, as the number of records has been increased by 1
add 1 to n
end user_input
Having read through more of the code i'm struck by the thought that -- in this particular case-- arrays are not necessarily the best option. A flat file would work extremely well, and then when you need to do your sorts you can use the livecode abilities to get to the desired results pretty easy.
So for example, if you adjust your file format so that its a flat file with 3 items
location,distance,time
location,distance,time
its easy enough to add your new location distance time at the end of the file
If you have all your lines in a variable after loading from the file you can do
put the number of lines in myVariable into n
put theNewData into line (n + 1) of myVariable -- there are other ways do do this of course.
THen for your sorts.. distance is easy.
sort lines of myVariable descending numeric by item 2 of each -- will sort by item 2
For the speed use a temporary variable. Something along these lines. So if myVariable has the lines of data, items delimited by comma, rows by cr then
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put empty into temp
repeat for each line tLine in myVariable
put tLIne & comma & yourspeedcalculations go here & cr after temp
end repeat
delete the last char of temp
sort lines of temp descending numeric by item 4 of each
A complete rewrite of the script is here. Forgive me if you just really want to use arrays for this, and ignore the following code.
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local bigVar,n,filedirectory -- all these are used in various handlers, declare once at top for persistance.
on mouseUp
read_from_file
user_input
Sort_and_display_highest_distances n, bigarray, temp
display_fastest_speed
write_to_file
end mouseup
on read_from_file
local counter, temp
#Clear output field "text"
put empty into field "text"
put specialfolderpath("desktop") & "/box.txt" into filedirectory
#If there is a file, read the records from the file
if (there is a file filedirectory) then
put URL ("file:" & filedirectory) into bigVar
else
-- no need to create a file here, it will be created by write_to_file
put empty into bigVar
end if
end read_from_file
on user_input
-- Could calculate speed as part of the user input in this handler
-- it would end up being more efficient that way
-- so that only a simple sort, no loops would be necessary
-- to locate the fastest speed. Speed could be stored in the file as an additional item.
#Define local variables
local userinput, distance
put the number of lines of bigVar into n
#Get new user input
ask "Where have you just been running?"
put it & comma into userinput -- build up a string of items and tack it on to the end of bigVar which is the file contents
ask "In kilometres, how far did you run?"
put it into distance
put distance & comma after userinput
ask "In minutes, how long did it take you to run those "& distance &" kilometres?"
put it after userinput
-- No need for repeat loop here, you can put an array into an array element directly.
#Put the user input at the bottom of the array
if bigVar is empty then
put userinput into bigVar -- if its the first entry, no line break
else
put cr & userInput after bigVar -- else add line break
end if
#The value of n must be increased by 1, as the number of records has been increased by 1
add 1 to n
end user_input
on Sort_and_display_highest_distances
#Clear temp value
put empty into temp
sort lines of bigVar descending numeric by item 2 of each -- sorts by distance
if the number of lines in bigVar >= 5 then -- handle an empty or nearly empty file
put line 1 to 5 of bigVar into temp -- if more than 5 lines grab the first 5 after sort
else
put bigVar into temp -- otherwise grab em all
end if
-- loop for the number of lines in temp. Will be 1-5
put "These are the top" & the number of lines in temp & " distances you have ever ran:" & cr into line 1 of field "text"
repeat for each line tLine in temp
put "At "& item 1 of tLine &" you ran "& item 2 of tLine &" kilometres." & cr after field "text"
end repeat
end Sort_and_display_highest_distances
on display_fastest_speed temp, n, bigarray
#Clear temp variable value
put empty into temp
#Define local variables
-- local Kmphour, runlocation -- not needed this way
repeat for each line tLine in bigVar
-- do calcs and build flat data in temp variable
-- check to make sure i didn't munge your calculation
put tLine & comma & item 2 of tLine /(item 3 of tLine / 60) & cr after temp
end repeat
-- after loop, item 4 of each line contains the speed
delete the last char of temp -- remove extraneous line break
sort lines of temp numeric descending by item 4 of each -- the first line should contain the fastest time now
#Display the fastest speed ran
-- use the items in the first line of temp to display results
put cr & "The fastest speed at which you have ran is "& item 4 line 1 of temp & " kilometres per hour. This was at "& item 1 line 1 of temp &"." & cr after field "text"
end display_fastest_speed
on write_to_file
put bigVar into URL ("file:" & filedirectory)
end write_to_file
Last comment on this.. If you are going to have large amounts of data you might consider shifting to a simple sqlite database for storage. It would work very well. To get your top 5 distances select from the database order by that field descending numeric, and set a limit to however many top entries you wish to pull out. You could store times in the database also to make selecting top times easy. (for that you can order by speed, limit 1, or I believe you can use the max() database function to locate the entry in question)
EDIT2: edited rewrite slightly to correct ask text.
Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Also just noticed this:
IE distance / (time in minutes / 60) rather than * 60. Otherwise you end up with km per second and you want to go the other direction.
Should probably be this:put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2]*60) into kmphour[loop][1]
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put bigarray[loop][1]/(bigarray[loop][2] / 60) into kmphour[loop][1]
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Re: Multiplying with 2-d arrays
Hi,
Thanks alot for all of your help!
After trying both versions extensively, I've decided to stick mainly with arrays, but it's ended up as bit of a hydbrid anyway.
Thanks again for all your help,
Louis
Thanks alot for all of your help!
After trying both versions extensively, I've decided to stick mainly with arrays, but it's ended up as bit of a hydbrid anyway.
Thanks again for all your help,
Louis