Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

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Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by czayas » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:58 pm

Hi, I'm new in LiveCode, I am trying to use it in Linux Mint 14 KDE Edition.

I noticed that the Tools window is in a fixed position, I can't move it elsewhere. Is it a "feature" or an error in Linux?

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by Mark » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:05 pm

Hi,

Are you trying to use the title bar to drag the window around? That works for me in Ubuntu.

Have you observed anything else? Are you able to move the tools palette just a few pixels for instance or is there a script window open? Is it always like this or only occasionally?

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by czayas » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:41 pm

Mark wrote:Are you trying to use the title bar to drag the window around? That works for me in Ubuntu.
Yes, I'm trying to drag the Tools window from the title bar. I noticed this behavior only in Mint. I installed LiveCode in a VirtualBox VM with Ubuntu Desktop 12.10 and everything works as it should.
Mark wrote:Have you observed anything else?
I posted other issues in the "Platform Specific > Linux" forum:
  • The font looks ugly, it seems a bitmapped fixed width font, and a bad one! :-) I tried in vain installing Microsoft TTF fonts and other font packages.
  • The mouse pointer disappears, sometimes frequently, sometimes permanently. It only stops if I delete the Preferences file before starting LiveCode.
Mark wrote:Are you able to move the tools palette just a few pixels for instance or is there a script window open?
The Tools window is fixed, I can't move it one bit. There are no extra windows open, only the main window, that behaves normally.
Mark wrote:Is it always like this or only occasionally?
It is always like this.
Mark wrote:Which version of LiveCode do you use?
I use LiveCode 6 on Linux Mint 14 KDE Edition.

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by Mark » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:51 pm

Hi,

Lets do a little test. Create a new, empty stack and set its style to palette. You can do this in the message box with

set the style of this stack to "palette"

If you can move this new stack, then it is probably a LiveCode problem. If you can't move the stack, I would assume it is a KDE problem, which needs to be reported to RunRev. With KDE problem, I mean that there might be a LiveCode bug that causes palettes to become non-draggable in KDE versions of Linux. This is no more than a hunch, of course.

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by czayas » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:14 pm

Mark, thanks for your help.

I created a new stack with "File > New Mainstack" and setted it style to "Palette" using the right mouse button.

I can move the new stack, but the right mouse button doesn't work any more on it.

Is it normal?

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by Mark » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Hi,

What do you expect to see if you click with the right mouse button? If it is a pop-up menu that's part of the IDE, then you're not supposed to see this on palettes. You can still open this menu by pressing shift-control while clicking, if you have indicated in the preferences window that you want this.

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by czayas » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:18 pm

Thank you, Mark. As I said earlier, I'm taking my first steps in LiveCode and help like yours is invaluable.

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by wsamples » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:00 pm

I have this issue in openSUSE running KDE. Try pressing the Alt key when you grab the tools pallete. If this does nothing, you should probably be able to set it in:

"Configure Desktop >> Window Behavior >> Window Behavior >>Window Actions"

You should see a block "Inner Window, Titlebar & Frame" where you can select various actions for Modifier key+mouse button combinations. Oddly, I find that if I position the tools pallete hard against or overlapping the left edge I can continue to grab and move it normally so long as it stays in that edge position.

Good luck!

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Re: Tools window in fixed position. Is it normal?

Post by czayas » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:13 pm

It works exactly as you have explained. Thanks!

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